IT'S HERE! - raped 1962 Jaguar project!

Pacafeliz · Post by **Pacafeliz** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:45 pm

hey there guys... well i just got back from work and my wifey had a package for me in my gear room - it finally arrived.
let me say, it's not as bad as i thought. the missing neckplate sitill bums me out but hey whatever.

the neck is in near immaculate shape, impressive. it's got the original logo, single-line kluson deluxes, the 2 62 penciled to the neck and a small "2" stamped into the wood (no color) in the neckpocket. i really think this could've been some sort of a prototype jag or so.
it comes with an old F neckplate which i assume to be non-original. it also comes with a MIJ white pickguard and a pair of gold (?!) bracket MIJ jag pups. must be off one of those gold/blond jags from the early 90s. cool.

there is the nail hole near the neck pocket (which has not been touched) and under the vol/tone control plate, it was just the angle of the pic), i'll check where i should find the other ones. the "main" vol/tone pots are '68 dated CTS, real nice. but then curiosity hit me... i unscrewed the little pots of the rhythm circuit and they are from the 50th week of 1961!!! so this IS the original '62 jaguar body. butchered but original!!! yaaay.
the refin is actually not THAT sloppy, kinda pearl-ish color, not too nasty. looks old. in the chips of the cavities etc. i see residue of some sort of turquise/blue-geenish color, but that could be of a previous refin. or not. but the body has been stripped before the refin. *sigh*

the thimbles are apparently of the fat/long kind, weird. the bridge is original and nice.

all the switches and jack are the original switchcrafts, but the tip of the rhythm circuit switch has broken off during shipping. i'll super-glue it back on. heh

so... after all, surprisingly, i really don't regret doing the deal. this guitar WILL be used and it'll be a fun restore project. i'll check out how these pups sound - maybe i won't even do the jazzuar thing, but we'll see, it still tempts me.

now i have a nice tort AVRI guard on the way to me (the MIJ don't fit well but thanks god it's never been attached or extra holes made, except for the humbucker ring ones. >:(

so... i need to download the wiring schematic, get out the soldering iron again (it's all disconnected) and go get some .10s. i can't wait.
now gimme a min to upload the pics and i'll post 'em in a min or 2.

rock on, thanks for the "support" guys!

Pat.

Pacafeliz · Post by **Pacafeliz** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:04 pm

ok here we go:

see that little "2" on the right?

thanks for looking, have fun!

Pat.

Post by **Hurb** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:14 pm

Looks awesome dude, please dont jazzuar it

I would make it my quest to make as original as possible even it took a few years.

If you ever want rid...holla I am calling dibs.

I bet you feel a load cleaner without that les paul in the house.

Justin J · Post by **Justin J** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:18 pm

i say restore it. don't do a jazzuar.
does it have a pat. pend. tailpiece?

Pacafeliz · Post by **Pacafeliz** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:21 pm

bubbles_horwitz wrote:i say restore it. don't do a jazzuar.
does it have a pat. pend. tailpiece?

nope the tailpiece has a pat. no.

...should it? these were used on jazzmasters since '59 or so, right?

Pat.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:21 pm

Hot. Changed my mind, this was a decent trade, it's not as bad as I thought it was from that pic in the other thread.

Justin J · Post by **Justin J** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:37 am

Pacafeliz wrote:
bubbles_horwitz wrote:i say restore it. don't do a jazzuar.
does it have a pat. pend. tailpiece?
nope the tailpiece has a pat. no.

...should it? these were used on jazzmasters since '59 or so, right?

Pat.

some early jaguars have them, but not all. they were used on jazzmasters until '61 and then on jags and jazzies until they ran out sometime in early '62.

Pacafeliz · Post by **Pacafeliz** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:42 am

bubbles_horwitz wrote:[

some early jaguars have them, but not all. they were used on jazzmasters until '61 and then on jags and jazzies until they ran out sometime in early '62.

oh wow i didn't know...

ok here's a fresh pic of both my "new" offsets. i put the guitar together and will do the soldering this weekend when wifey and baby are out, i just CAN'T right now...

ok disregard the communist propaghanda in the middle of both guitars... heh :-[

i definitely don't like the color. at least not with a white guard on. i have a tort AVRI guard on the way... hopefully it won't take too long.
the MIJ guard don't fit it so it's just kinda floating around. might have to use the tape again, damn.

a prob i see, the guy took out pretty much wood (deep) to fit the humbuckers. there is not enough wood to screw the pickups back in, i'm afraid they'd come out on the back of the guitar! i'll need to get some wood filler or so.

i have a friend that works over at RS guitarworks but he sez a complete restore, refin and aging would be around $300-$500 and take up to 3-4 months. i KNOW they are as high-quality as it gets, and no one would ever notice any mod... but i can't spend that kinda dough on it.

for now i just want it to look half decent and be PLAYABLE. will probably need a new nut as well cuz this one's pretty worn and chipped on the low E side (massive buzz). i had to put a pick in the neck pocket as a shim, it kinda works now.

it SEEMS that that's a refret on the guitar, kinda edgy but i don't know. it it is, it looks pretty pro but ok, i need a new nut.
i can't wait to hear and play it.
NGD, yaay!

Pat.

damienblair17 · Post by **damienblair17** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:04 am

That looks sweet! Best of luck with the restore!

Post by **Mike** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:51 am

Tape to hold on the Jazzmaster pickguard. Really? Pickguard screws cost $3.

The Jaguar looks way better with singles and a new scratchplate. I would definitely restore it to it's former stock glory.

timhulio · Post by **timhulio** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:14 am

Lol I was just thinking how cool the black tape looked on the JM. You should get some screws but keep the tape.

Re. chucking a load of filler in the humbucker routes- I'd get a luthier (or just someone skilled with a router) to neaten the holes, cut some nice blocks and glue them in, then re-route the pickup cavities properly. Bit like my mate Ant did with my old tele:
http://home.asparagine.net/ant/blog/?page_id=65

Pacafeliz · Post by **Pacafeliz** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:09 pm

timhulio wrote:Lol I was just thinking how cool the black tape looked on the JM. You should get some screws but keep the tape.

Re. chucking a load of filler in the humbucker routes- I'd get a luthier (or just someone skilled with a router) to neaten the holes, cut some nice blocks and glue them in, then re-route the pickup cavities properly. Bit like my mate Ant did with my old tele:
http://home.asparagine.net/ant/blog/?page_id=65

that sounds cool, thanks yeah i'll try to find some GOOD luthier down here to do that for me. and then refinish it... hmmm black? pink? baby blue? the sky's the limit!!!

Pacafeliz · Post by **Pacafeliz** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:11 pm

Mike wrote:Tape to hold on the Jazzmaster pickguard. Really? Pickguard screws cost $3.

i KNOW and i don't particularly like the tape. but the original tort guard has shrunk too much, it just won't fit anymore.
so now BOTH these guitars have non-fitting MIJ guards on them. that's why the tape is there.

i've already got an AVRI tort guard on the way for the Jag but i still need one for the Jazzmaster. i kinda like the green/white, though.

Pat.

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:08 pm

I would go gently and thoughtfully with mods. But since it's already been dicked with, you have lots O license. Am I seeing Sea Foam in the pockets here? That is a sweet guitar. It must be, for Hurb to be salivating.

Pacafeliz · Post by **Pacafeliz** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:25 pm

DGNR8 wrote:I would go gently and thoughtfully with mods. But since it's already been dicked with, you have lots O license. Am I seeing Sea Foam in the pockets here?

yes y'know i think that's sea foam in the cavities... damn!
i think THAT'S the color i'm gonna choose for the re-fin. back to its former glory. oh yeah! DROOL on.

Pat.

Post by **dots** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:10 pm

dude, it's already been dicked with, so do whatever you want to without chopping anymore wood off of it.

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:36 pm

i think with a bit of TLC that'll be a lovely guitar. it's a shame it's been hacked up, but if it was mint it'd have cost an absolute fortune, so every cloud...

Thom · Post by **Thom** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:38 pm

Totally, this could be a lovely guitar. Look forward to updates.

Thomas · Post by **Thomas** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:38 pm

Very cool guitar. ell done on the trade.

Pacafeliz · Post by **Pacafeliz** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:29 am

Dinosauria wrote:Very cool guitar. ell done on the trade.

well i'm still gonna need one of your mutes

heh heh

thanks guys, i'm hyped and i can't wait for the weekend to get this one back to working/playing condition. oh and the tort...

Pat.