How good are the MIM Jaguar pickups?

Post by **Mike** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:04 pm

This good:
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All the positions and sounds from the Classic Player Jaguar with a nice clean tone from the Orange Tiny Terror (yes I am ill and bored, sue me). I didn't show off the cleans that well in the first demo I made.

Sorry about no chatter (ill) and I know it's not perfectly in tune.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:29 pm

Not so hot on the neck, I like mine a wee bit mellower but the bridge is gewd, sounds quite similar to the S-JAG 3 in my jag.

Post by **Mike** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:35 pm

Bear in mind the tone controls are maxed on both the circuits, either can be rolled off.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:38 pm

It's hard to explain what I don't like about it, rolling off the tone ciruit wouldn't do it. It's more I prefer emphasis on different parts of the tonal spectrum.
Whichs sounds dangerously close to a TONE QUEST.

"WHATS YOUR HOLY GRAIL OF TONE?" God I hate that question with a passion.

I expect fucking about with an amp that has a 3 band EQ would sort it for me anyway.

kim · Post by **kim** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:40 pm

you might say i'm full of shit but i thought that sounded A LOT like my stang in certain positions .. so weird. certain settings it's more bassy/mellow than my stang can ever get with pure cleans but sometimes the similarities were amazing.

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:42 pm

It reminds me of the lead circuit of my CIJ Jag when I had the TOM on there, but a bit more balanced, probably due to the proper string-to-polepiece allignment. Nice sounds.

More Cowbell · Post by **More Cowbell** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:53 pm

Excellent Vid MIke.

Post by **Hurb** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:56 pm

Sounds all good to me. but I knew that all ready from when I played one.

kim · Post by **kim** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:59 pm

by the way mike, i've never seen those 65 RI stangs here at shops, what's the difference with the 69 RI's ? no countouring on the back etc ? why do people keep aying they're supposed to be better than 69's ?
i wish i could find a lefty somewhere here so i could find out for myself

Sublimedo · Post by **Sublimedo** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:42 am

the basswood + pups in the the '69 are widely known to be lesser elements in comparison to the '65. That's about it really. I love my '69 regardless.

Post by **Mike** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:09 am

Sublimedo wrote:the basswood + pups in the the '69 are widely known to be lesser elements in comparison to the '65. That's about it really. I love my '69 regardless.

There're more than that.

'69: Basswood, Contours, Metal Klusons, Bridge has spaces between the saddles, pickups not as great (but I blame the basswood on that)

'65: Poplar, Slab, White button tuners, Bridge has no spaces between the saddles, great pickups, pickguard gap, more vintage colour schemes and pickguards.

Basically they're both good but the '65 feels a whole lot more quality to me.

Cheers for watching guys

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:42 am

so wait a tic.
the re-issue jap 65' has a vintage styled bridge?
no gaps?
no buzz, no fuss? i did not know that.
thats a definite plus for me, that means that fender went out of thier way to re-create a more accurate bridge.

Post by **Mike** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:32 am

robert(original) wrote:so wait a tic.
the re-issue jap 65' has a vintage styled bridge?
no gaps?
no buzz, no fuss? i did not know that.
thats a definite plus for me, that means that fender went out of thier way to re-create a more accurate bridge.

Yeah, it was rob that pointed it out to me.

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:40 am

well that just earned about 60 points in my book.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:01 pm

The basswood debate could be a valid one. Some guy over at JS is whining about his JS being dull sounding blaming the angled 'bucker even after upgrading the pup. In contrast my self built JS sounds very bright and that too has an angled 'bucker, the only differences being a Gotoh TOM and Mahogany body. You gotta be thinking its the wood.

Post by **Mike** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:06 pm

Fran wrote:The basswood debate could be a valid one. Some guy over at JS is whining about his JS being dull sounding blaming the angled 'bucker even after upgrading the pup. In contrast my self built JS sounds very bright and that too has an angled 'bucker, the only differences being a Gotoh TOM and Mahogany body. You gotta be thinking its the wood.

Basswood has always been my chief complaint with the Jag-Stang. The Jag-Stang bucker sounds great in any other guitar, also people rip on the '69 RI Mustang pickups but they sound good in my Ash Duo-Sonic II.

euan · Post by **euan** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:12 pm

Kim the don't do a lefty 65 I'm afraid. If you want a non basswood shortscale you'll need an original or a Jaguar.

kim · Post by **kim** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:16 pm

do they make the 65 in a lefty config ? i really like the dakota red <3

i've been considering getting some bare knuckles for my 69 but then never did it and sorta let it go you know, to me the 69 is a fine guitar, i like its feel and i'm not refined enough to be bothered by the fact it 'could be better' with other wood, another bridge etc, i'm real curious about those 65's though and wish i could play a lefty somewhere so i could judge for myself because i just read and hear things now but you know how it goes with opinions and personal preferences eh.

kim · Post by **kim** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:17 pm

ah euan beat me, no lefty, fuck it then. LEFTYCISTS !!!

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:25 pm

Mike wrote:
Fran wrote:The basswood debate could be a valid one. Some guy over at JS is whining about his JS being dull sounding blaming the angled 'bucker even after upgrading the pup. In contrast my self built JS sounds very bright and that too has an angled 'bucker, the only differences being a Gotoh TOM and Mahogany body. You gotta be thinking its the wood.
Basswood has always been my chief complaint with the Jag-Stang. The Jag-Stang bucker sounds great in any other guitar, also people rip on the '69 RI Mustang pickups but they sound good in my Ash Duo-Sonic II.

From what i can gather, some Metal guitar brands use it along with Agathis because of its 'low end' properties, hmmm, gimme better wood and a tone knob is what i'm thinking.