Reccomend me a Les Paul shortscale!

dawnofzion · Post by **dawnofzion** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:57 pm

I made mine.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:23 pm

euan wrote:I've never managed to get my hands on a Jap Tokai. I fell inlove with a RIC copy but it was a MIK and didn't sound too hot one I actually picked it up.

I was absolutely flabbergasted the first time I played a MIJ Tokai - about the best quality guitar I've played.

kim · Post by **kim** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:02 pm

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:30 pm

dawnofzion wrote:I made mine.

Loev the wrapover idea, i'd probably swap that one for a more swanky PRS bridge though. Good job there

ultraviolence · Post by **ultraviolence** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:49 pm

if you live in North America I'd suggest Agile...I played the AL-3100, was definitely better than the 4 different Epi LP Customs i played....it was also used to it was under 500$.

If you live in europe, on UG I've heard "Vintage" makes some damn good LP copies.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:50 pm

ultraviolence wrote: If you live in europe, on UG I've heard "Vintage" makes some damn good LP copies.

Nope.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:58 pm

ahahahaha. vintage make guitar shaped pieces of piss. i played one of their strats and it was fucking horrendous.

plus any company intentionally named to confuse people is arse, there's no way they called their brand vintage for any reason other than being able to adertise as "REAL VINTAGE GUITARS".

ultraviolence · Post by **ultraviolence** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:59 pm

Zaphod wrote:ahahahaha. vintage make guitar shaped pieces of piss. i played one of their strats and it was fucking horrendous.

plus any company intentionally named to confuse people is arse, there's no way they called their brand vintage for any reason other than being able to adertise as "REAL VINTAGE GUITARS".

Well I never played one but a bunch of people on UG seem to like them alot.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:00 pm

ultraviolence wrote:Well I never played one but a bunch of people on UG seem to like them alot.

there's yer problem.

ultraviolence · Post by **ultraviolence** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:01 pm

Zaphod wrote:
ultraviolence wrote:Well I never played one but a bunch of people on UG seem to like them alot.
there's yer problem.

ha, yeah there is a large number of idiots on there, but there are some really smart people too

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:05 pm

wtf is UG? i'm out of touch these days.

arcadedave · Post by **arcadedave** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:07 pm

Ultimate Guitar

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:25 pm

i think with the epiphone stuff, it's very hit or miss. when i got my black les paul custom, i'd played quite a few until i randomly found one that was really amazing. the goldtop was complete luck that it played really well.

eventually i'd love to get something a little closer, maybe a late 70's tokai or something. i've not played the tokai les pauls, but fuck me, their 335's put some of the gibsons to shame.

Wilbur · Post by **Wilbur** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:12 am

He's right about Agile though...

Rondomusic.com

Go forth and get an Agile LP copy...

I should add an additional FTW for Tokai...played an early 80's Jazz Bass copy by them once...it was...epic

Mages · Post by **Mages** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:22 am

I don't have time to extensively reply to this right now but listen to fran. The vintage Japanese "lawsuit" copies can be obtained for the same amount as the mid to high-end epiphone and the they're MUCH higher quality. The pickups on my Greco are the best humbuckers I've ever heard in my life.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:02 am

I'm not a fan of most epiphones I've played. I have a gibson les paul studio, I got it new at a good price through the shop I worked at but you can buy them all day from $500-$800 on ebay used. I love mine. If you can't afford a gibson, go with some older japanese made lp style guitar, or "play" epiphones til you find one you like (I would never buy one online).

jer72deluxe · Post by **jer72deluxe** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:54 am

Tokai ftw. I played one awhile ago and im still pissed i missed my chance on it. seriously the only difference i found between a gibson and that was the weight and the price. which is a big bonus with the tokai

timhulio · Post by **timhulio** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:01 am

Vintage are fuckin pissy.

Could be I've suffered some sort of brain clot, but I always liked these smartwood LPs. They've got nice thin bodies, and some sort of mission statement about burning the earths few remaining rainforests. Or something.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:13 pm

timhulio wrote:Vintage are fuckin pissy.

Could be I've suffered some sort of brain clot, but I always liked these smartwood LPs. They've got nice thin bodies, and some sort of mission statement about burning the earths few remaining rainforests. Or something.

I might check them out myself, are they made of MDF with 'paint and grain' finish?

JJLipton · Post by **JJLipton** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:09 pm

I've owned my 58 ri les paul for a while now, and it's a pretty good guitar. These days gibson's prices are pretty unreasonable considering the quality of the guitars ive played recently. I would go with esp or edwards, which is related to esp. Everyone seems to love their edwards les pauls, and it would be nice to have an lp style guitar that you don't constantly have to worry about scratching or getting stolen.