how to you make that new shitty robot hip hop vocal sound?

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how to you make that new shitty robot hip hop vocal sound?

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new songs from tpain, lil wayne, and other rap dudes.....
i hear people tell me "ohh thats just auto tuner" bla bla bla


and then i ask "which auto tuner? what the fuck are you talking about?" and they never have an answer for me.

i know its not just a simple vocorder or talk box.


if its computer software they are using tell me what the fuck it is so i can buy it / steal it / download it and make robot sounds too!!!!!!!!!
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I use the one built into audition when I want to sound like shite. I'm sure theres gotta be a free VST one knocking about.

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you mean melodyne? That shit's tight.
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Auto Tune uses vocoder based technology to automatically correct the pitch of notes. I've never used it because I fucking hate it, but my understanding of it is that there are a few different ways to use it.

- You can use it to automatically correct small fluctuations. Say a note is slightly flat, it will notice that and pitchshift it back to the nearest one.
- You can input a melody into it (sort of MIDI style), and have the audio corrected to that. So it will detect the pitch of the audio input (like a guitar tuner does) and pitchshift it to match what it is told it should be.
- You can have it matched to another piece of audio. Say you have 3 vocal takes, you can use one as the base melody to auto tune the others to.

The idea behind the more crazy stuff, is that the singer purposely goes far from the input melody and gets more pitchshifting as a result. It's partly what gives that sort of strained sound to it. The timbre of the vocal suggests theyre going higher than the pitch you hear.

It's sort of like a more detailed vocoder, with some AI stuff built into it. My three uses there are based on what I remember being told about it and a fair bit of guess work. I avoided it as much as possible because I can't stand it at all.

The orginial and famous version was made by Antares, and there will be many copies by now. You will be able to download cracked versions, and possibly one or two free ones, of similar software. It will almost certainly come as a VST file meaning you'll need audio sequencing software (cubase et al) to run it.

I think it's only fair if you kill yourself for what that guy plans to do to the SG Melody Maker that I go and top myself now. Goodnight, Shortscale. :cry:
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Auto Tune is so abhorrent. If you can't sing, don't.
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Mike wrote:Auto Tune is so abhorrent. If you can't sing, don't.
It's useful in the right situation as an effect but if you need it to sing it tune git tae fux.
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I love the Vocoder, the auto tune thing is so-so.

It's really gotten out of hand in Hip Hop though.
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you can hear auto tune on a lot of maroon five tracks. listen to this love, the "this love is taking it's toll on me" line. you can hear the stepping effect of auto tune.
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Yeah. Search Youtube for autotune rob and you will have your answers.
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Mike wrote:Auto Tune is so abhorrent. If you can't sing, don't.
QFT. and get off the radio.
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vocoder/talkbox = good in small doses
autotune = not acceptable
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ROFL. I love how they just took their old 2" reel and wrote "vocoder" on it.
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I have an old Roland SVC-350, as used on the funky Pixies cover of "Dig For Fire" for the comp. The filter sliders vary the tone much less than one might expect, but with a fat input synth tone(I use tones from our beloved Access Virus) you can go all the way from buzz fart voice to silky wisp-bot. Likely our favorite piece of history in the home studio:

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More Cowbell wrote:
Mike wrote:Auto Tune is so abhorrent. If you can't sing, don't.
QFT. and get off the radio.
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Bollocks.

The man has a big enough ego, you don't need to fuel it.
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I was hardly serious. Dudes notorious for overdoing it with the auto tune.