cheap jagmaster project

Aeon · Post by **Aeon** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:02 pm

I bought this body for $40, its from a Jagmaster.

I already had a spare neck laying about, so I figured why not complete the thing. I have an extra AVRI Jazzmaster pickup. However, to fit these would require some routing, so I might just forget about that and instead use the Lace Sensors I never sold. I was planning on refinishing it, however, the finish actually looks pretty nice and isn't as thick as I thought it would be. The grain looks pretty good.

The body depth is noticeably thinner than a JM or Jaguar, but not as thin as a Mustang iirc.

All I need is a neck plate, a nut, a trem/bridge, and possibly a new pickguard. I should be able to get this all together without spending over $100.

Post by **Hurb** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:04 pm

second one.

Aeon · Post by **Aeon** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:08 pm

I think I might just do that. I liked how they sounded in the Mustang I used to have, although I never really loved the neck on that guitar. This replacement neck is a pretty typical C shape 25.5" scale, the only "twist" is that it's lefty, but that really shouldn't effect anything once the nut's on.

I do think I will use 500k instead of 250k, it seems like Lace Sensors might benefit from that. Alternately, I might just wire them direct to the pickup selector to the output jack. (Well, maybe have a volume pot too..)

Mo Law-ka · Post by **Mo Law-ka** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:13 pm

i like the look of the second one, but the first one looks cool too.

i say, go for the one with the pickups that sound better.

Aeon · Post by **Aeon** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:15 pm

JM pickups are my favorite sound, at least in the neck position. However, I already have a traditional Jazzmaster and another guitar with a JM pickup in it. So perhaps the Laces would be a good change of pace.

This guitar is just going to be a beater that I'll keep in weird alt-tunings, so I don't really care how "pretty" it looks in the end, as long as its playable.

Mo Law-ka · Post by **Mo Law-ka** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:20 pm

one of each then!

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:15 am

the red lace [if that is in fact what you have there] is complete shite
go with the soaps

JaguarOW · Post by **JaguarOW** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:39 pm

Haze wrote:the red lace is complete shite

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:42 pm

no lie
put a b/s/r set in my strat and i dred using the bridge
some might love it, but it's not for me

Zack · Post by **Zack** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:50 pm

Mo Rocca wrote:one of each then!

+1.

I haven't seen too many P-90/single guitars.

Aeon · Post by **Aeon** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:54 pm

Haze wrote:no lie
put a b/s/r set in my strat and i dred using the bridge
some might love it, but it's not for me

Billy Corgan's old setup?

The red seems to work well with fuzz and distortion, but clean does sound pretty bad. I hardly ever use the bridge setting clean though, so it's kind of a moot point.

BTW, Jazzmaster pickups are single coils, not P90s.

edit: Another thing I've considered is selling the pickups I have and getting two AVRI Jaguar pickups.

JaguarOW · Post by **JaguarOW** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:56 pm

i have the red sensor in the neck of my strat and it sounds amazing clean

Post by **Hurb** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:11 pm

Goots. wrote:
Mo Rocca wrote:one of each then!
+1.

I haven't seen too many P-90/single guitars.

jazzmaster pickups aren't p-90's

Zack · Post by **Zack** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:18 am

Hurb wrote:
Goots. wrote:
Mo Rocca wrote:one of each then!
+1.

I haven't seen too many P-90/single guitars.
jazzmaster pickups aren't p-90's

Well, that's definitely news to me. I guess I was under the impression they were due to my many misreading on custom pickup sites.

Still, I still haven't seen many P-90/single or a JM/single guitars for that matter.

So, you know, do it with JM's instead.

Billy3000 · Post by **Billy3000** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:26 pm

That's a 25.5 scale neck? The body looks like one of the newer short scale jagmaster bodies so I would think that it wouldn't intonate properly with that neck.

EDIT: stupid ipod touch auto correct changed "intonate" to "intimate"

Mages · Post by **Mages** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:19 pm

Billy3000 wrote:That's a 25.5 scale neck? The body looks like one of the newer short scale jagmaster bodies so I would think that it wouldn't intimate properly with that neck.

the newer jagmasters have conversion necks (originally they were 25.5" but a few years ago they changed it). the vista ones were true 24" scale.

harrisbquinn · Post by **harrisbquinn** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:37 pm

Aeon wrote:
Haze wrote:no lie
put a b/s/r set in my strat and i dred using the bridge
some might love it, but it's not for me
Billy Corgan's old setup?

The red seems to work well with fuzz and distortion, but clean does sound pretty bad. I hardly ever use the bridge setting clean though, so it's kind of a moot point.

BTW, Jazzmaster pickups are single coils, not P90s.

edit: Another thing I've considered is selling the pickups I have and getting two AVRI Jaguar pickups.

p90s are single coils

Sparky · Post by **Sparky** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:25 am

Haze wrote:the red lace is complete shite

Trewth. I have a red dually that just sounds like arse.

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:50 am

i actually like my red lace.
i used to have it in the bridge of my tele up against a p-90 and i took it out, then i put it in the neck of my duo and fell in love with it.
something about the neck position seems to do it right.
otherwise.... im not sure, then i have taken into account the difference in scale, bridge, wood, electronics or anything else.

Aeon · Post by **Aeon** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:33 am

Lace sensors are very polarizing. I think part of it is that they pretty much lack character. They don't sound like any other type of pickup, for better or worse.

Not that artist endorsement matters, but Billy Corgan and Jonny Greenwood don't seem to have any problem getting good sounds with them.

My intention with this project is just to get something playable together without spending much money, regardless of aesthetics. I will be ordering parts and piecing this thing together in the next week or two, and I'll be sure to document the progress.