problems with mustang bridge

Jagermeister · Post by **Jagermeister** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:48 pm

winterfrost wrote:I'm sorry but whats mean ''nut''?

The nut: The big, longish white thing. Yours needs to be properly filed.

othomas2 · Post by **othomas2** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:01 pm

I'd try to lubricate the nut before filing... pencil lead I've heard works.

The tuning issues may be because your strings haven't been properly stretched yet ?

or may just need a little time for the tremelo to become settled.

when you release the trem button you can expect a difference in tuning... totally normal...

If you're up to pitch and you release the button this will add extra tension to the strings and could cause string breakage.

O

winterfrost · Post by **winterfrost** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:04 pm

something wrong with pictures
it should look like this

winterfrost · Post by **winterfrost** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:06 pm

othomas2 wrote:I'd try to lubricate the nut before filing... pencil lead I've heard works.

The tuning issues may be because your strings haven't been properly stretched yet ?

or may just need a little time for the tremelo to become settled.

when you release the trem button you can expect a difference in tuning... totally normal...

If you're up to pitch and you release the button this will add extra tension to the strings and could cause string breakage.

O

no, strings not new
end trem too
my jag is '97

Jagermeister · Post by **Jagermeister** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:07 pm

othomas2 wrote: when you release the trem button you can expect a difference in tuning... totally normal...

If you're up to pitch and you release the button this will add extra tension to the strings and could cause string breakage.

...What?

I've got mine both adjusted so that I can, in a normal, unbroken string situation, slide it back and forth without tuning change. When a string breaks, I can then push the trem down, push the button, and have every other string then be in pitch. That's what I can consider normal and working... Is that not what you mean, or how you use the button?

He should just take his guitar to a tech if he has this much trouble.

Jagermeister · Post by **Jagermeister** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:08 pm

winterfrost wrote:something wrong with pictures
it should look like this

It should look like that, yes. And it should continue to look like that when the button is not pushed down, as on the first picture I posted.

If you can do that, it's right.

winterfrost · Post by **winterfrost** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:13 pm

ok
I try to find guitar tech in Moscow who know about jag
usually they only know about strat\teles\les pouls\ or some metal style guitar+(

Jagermeister · Post by **Jagermeister** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:15 pm

winterfrost wrote:ok
I try to find guitar tech in Moscow who know about jag
usually they only know about strat\teles\les pouls\ or some metal style guitar+(

Just don't listen to them if they tell you that you need to change bridges (again).

They CAN work with the stock setup, just shop around

Not that I know Moscow.

winterfrost · Post by **winterfrost** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:26 pm

thank for advices guys

othomas2 · Post by **othomas2** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:32 pm

Jagermeister wrote:
othomas2 wrote: when you release the trem button you can expect a difference in tuning... totally normal...

If you're up to pitch and you release the button this will add extra tension to the strings and could cause string breakage.
...What?

I've got mine both adjusted so that I can, in a normal, unbroken string situation, slide it back and forth without tuning change. When a string breaks, I can then push the trem down, push the button, and have every other string then be in pitch. That's what I can consider normal and working... Is that not what you mean, or how you use the button?

He should just take his guitar to a tech if he has this much trouble.

I've had this discussion with someone before and they've said the same as you ... and I just brushed it off

now I'm confused...

Basically I've got to push the trem bar down until I'm able to flick the switch across and lock the trem.

When it's in its locked position the strings have lowered in pitch / decreased in tension.

This is how it has been on my 61 jazzmaster for the last 10+ years and likewise on my jag for the last year.

so this isn't correctly setup then ?

I've always considered this to be correct & didn't know any different.

Not saying I'm right at all... just surprised I didn't know...

Can you tell me how to rectify this ?

cheers
O

winterfrost · Post by **winterfrost** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:37 pm

i thught that is normal too
but after this try to do like that

Jagermeister · Post by **Jagermeister** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:41 pm

The purpose of the tremlock is to rectify the perceived problem of a guitar losing its tuning when one string is broken.

When you set the tremlock button to be level with the position of the trem when all strings are intact and in tune, you are in essence setting where the correct tension for every string is. Therefore, when one loses tension, you can push the trem down and insert the button to retain that same amount of tension.

The point isn't to simply have less tension or change the tuning of the guitar, it was actually a solution to what Leo Fender thought was a big problem with trem guitars (and it's actually semi useful, though I'm not a big string breaker).

Of course, it's also fun to just adjust your trem to wherever you like and ignore the tremlock

othomas2 · Post by **othomas2** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:02 pm

O.k. I've adjust the height adjustment screw... so there's no change in pitch between each position... and the button moves freely - when locked not allowing you to pull the trem bar upwards. So this considered to be correct ?

I assumed the adjustment screw was for tension only so you could set a soft or harder trem... and felt that dropping the trem bar and flicking the switch you were actually 'locking' somethin into position. But I guess I was wrong.

O

Jagermeister · Post by **Jagermeister** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:09 pm

...Really the trem should be wherever you're comfortable with it IMO.

But for the tremlock to work, and for the setup to be as Fender, that's the way. I'm a weird sort of stickler for that sort of thing on my own guitars.

As practice, loosen a string, apply the button, and see if the remaining strings then play in tune.