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Danelectro Baritone as bass/

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I need a bass, but I like having six strings but I think six string basses are just about the wackest thing on planet earth. I've always wanted a Dano baritone, though, so I was wondering if it could be used for bassier sondz. In all the examples I've seen, people treat it more like a guitar that's just been tuned down, but it has a full 29.75" scale length (same as Dano's shortscale bass), so I'm assuming it can quite happily accept heavier bass strings?

A curious oddity is the way the vast majority of sites appear to be listing the Baritone as having a 27.75" scale, while the Guitarist review lists it as the 29.75" length, and the picture shows it next to the short scale bass, which looks exactly the same length (and is also listed as 29.75", obviously).
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I'd like to offer my Victor Kiam moneyback guarantee* here: I love my Dano baritone, and it's the second one I've had. I've always understood the scale length to be 30", same as the Bass VI, and Bass VI stringsets fit them fine, and they tune down to E-E no problem at all. Honestly they sound and play fucking ace. I keep mine tuned B-B now because I love the way that sounds too, and I don't have a bass amp (in fact, at the moment I have no amp at all apart from my Pignose, but that's another matter entirely...), but you really cannot go wrong with a Dano baritone. Peter Cook's is apparently the cheapest place to get them in the UK at the mo. Nowt on the website, but they had them when I spoke to them. It's the most fun guitar you'll get for fuck all money.




* I am actually too skint to offer any money back, mind.
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benecol wrote:I'd like to offer my Victor Kiam moneyback guarantee* here: I love my Dano baritone, and it's the second one I've had. I've always understood the scale length to be 30", same as the Bass VI, and Bass VI stringsets fit them fine, and they tune down to E-E no problem at all. Honestly they sound and play fucking ace. I keep mine tuned B-B now because I love the way that sounds too, and I don't have a bass amp (in fact, at the moment I have no amp at all apart from my Pignose, but that's another matter entirely...), but you really cannot go wrong with a Dano baritone. Peter Cook's is apparently the cheapest place to get them in the UK at the mo. Nowt on the website, but they had them when I spoke to them. It's the most fun guitar you'll get for fuck all money.




* I am actually too skint to offer any money back, mind.
Awesome. I'm sold then. I'll be spending all my spending money for the term as soon as I get paid on Monday, then. Imuso is looking good with them at £200 minus shipping. Peter Cooks is usually all clearance stuff, but I'll still give them a ring to see what their prices are like. Funnily enough, I remember ogling a Gretsch budget baritone on there years ago back at college. It was bloody nice, but a bit more your "guitar-y" baritone jobby, with an extended guitar length and trem, meant for guitar strings.

On another note, Danelectro have started their new run of awesome rock mashines:

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Fucking minters. Trem arm and everything, and in a style they've not reissued before. I'm totally getting one of the bright yellow guitar versions when they drop in price later this year as all the rest have done.
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Gold fucking hardware, mind? Peter Cook's weren't clearance, just got quite a few in - were something like £150 a couple of months back. I too have eyed up that Gretsch, but it's actually more expensive than they have it listed, and tricky to convert to a regular bari (it's E_E).
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Those new Danos look awesomly hawt.
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hmm, i t seems like you need a Thundercats.
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I didn't like my Baritone dano too much (it was tuned to EADGBE). Mainly because it didn't play like a bass with the light strings and with them so close together. It still sounded like a dano, the lipsticks didn't really sound right to me for bass.

If you don't like a lot of thump in your bass tone and you plan on playing bass more/less like you play guitar, then go for it.
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Just wondering, what is the 'standard' tuning for a baritone?
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B-B or A-A

Theres a lot of contention on these definitions, but here's the way I see it. If you agree, you are right, if you disagree, you're not just wrong, you're stupid.

A Guitar tuned down to D, or C is a guitar tuned low
A Guitar tuned A-A or B-B is a baritone, regardless of scale length.
A long scale guitar (27" +) tuned to D,C,or E is stupid and you are wasting that scale.
A guitar tuned E-E but an octave lower is a six string fucking bass regardless of scale length
A Bass tuned high but with four strings is a piccolo bass.

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aen wrote:B-B or A-A

Theres a lot of contention on these definitions, but here's the way I see it. If you agree, you are right, if you disagree, you're not just wrong, you're stupid.

A Guitar tuned down to D, or C is a guitar tuned low
A Guitar tuned A-A or B-B is a baritone, regardless of scale length.
A long scale guitar (27" +) tuned to D,C,or E is stupid and you are wasting that scale.
A guitar tuned E-E but an octave lower is a six string fucking bass regardless of scale length
A Bass tuned high but with four strings is a piccolo bass.

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Ah ok, cool.
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so i guess its really all down to the tuning on a guitar
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I say go for it! I've been playing the Bass VI a lot but you can't get all slappy and disco-disco with it, kinda have to use a pick with it all the time, and it gives a very unique bass sound that sounds almost vintage like. I thought it was a good solution for me because I played guitar for 7 years and didn't pick up a bass till about 2 years ago but it's hard to get all funktastic if you want to get all finger plucky. It got me thinking if baritone guitar would suffice for 3 piece bands and I think it would work well. There are quite a number of bands without bassists that are successful and have their own sound, but sometimes you just crave bass and the low notes of the guitar suffice. I'm real curious to see how a baritone would cut it and I think you could pull it off pretty successfully. Go for the gold!
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I'm in the beginning stages of a no bass/2 baritone metal band. We'll see if it ever actually happens...
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aen wrote:I'm in the beginning stages of a no bass/2 baritone metal band. We'll see if it ever actually happens...
This ^ sounds ace. Have you ever heard Rothko? Three bassists, and that's it. They were ace.
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why mess with a good thing? i didnt realise the originals had two butts, satin hardware, satin finish, "souped up" pickups, the wrong fucking headstock, and the wrong fucking brand name.
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That longhorn bass is actually looking mighty tempting.
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william wrote:Image

the ironing is delicious.


why mess with a good thing? i didnt realise the originals had two butts, satin hardware, satin finish, "souped up" pickups, the wrong fucking headstock, and the wrong fucking brand name.
I'm a huge Danelectro fan, but I don't think you should be getting so upset. Besides, alot of these models were made with all sorts of changes for the different catalogue companies that badged and sold them. They still look like they're straight from the sixties, but actually playable.
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ekwatts wrote:
I'm a huge Danelectro fan, but I don't think you should be getting so upset. Besides, alot of these models were made with all sorts of changes for the different catalogue companies that badged and sold them. They still look like they're straight from the sixties, but actually playable.
Trewth. Making small changes here and there is totally what they would've done (and did do) in the 60's, so I'm not complaining. Although I can see will's point about them advertising it as "dead on original" when it's not a direct reissue of any one specific model. Also, I'm still not keen on the brushed metal hardware.
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Nick wrote:
ekwatts wrote:
I'm a huge Danelectro fan, but I don't think you should be getting so upset. Besides, alot of these models were made with all sorts of changes for the different catalogue companies that badged and sold them. They still look like they're straight from the sixties, but actually playable.
Trewth. Making small changes here and there is totally what they would've done (and did do) in the 60's, so I'm not complaining. Although I can see will's point about them advertising it as "dead on original" when it's not a direct reissue of any one specific model. Also, I'm still not keen on the brushed metal hardware.
my 64 is straight from the sixties, and actually playable.

my frustration is the discrepancy between their spiel and what they actually are offering, which compounds my frustration that they insist on "improving" classic models that don't need it at all. there was never a danelectro hornet anyway, that i can find.
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There was a similar guitar with a different pickguard and a different headstock. I think pics are in the other dano thread.

Either way, I'm sure there's reasons they didn't badge it as a "Coral"...probably either because they don't have the rights to the brand name any more or because Danelectro is a household name, and it would take way more advertising than they could afford to convince enough people to buy a guitar they haven't heard of.

You should be happy they not only brought back the general body shape, gave it a wooden bridge, as many cool finishes as they did, gave it lipstick pickups and used a cool looking headstock.

I only wish they reissued the Hagstroms HALF as trew to the originals as these are.