well i know i'll be broke again soon...

finboy · Post by **finboy** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:39 am

http://www.rondomusic.com/product2222.html

shipping cost to canada has me a bit pissed, might have to get someone to rebound it, with brokerage i would probably be looking at $200+ for shipping

damienblair17 · Post by **damienblair17** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:23 am

Kinda reminds me of a Ric, an Ibanez, with an Epi headstock.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:28 am

It's really pretty in some ways, but fugly in others.

Needs moar:
F holes
Blocks
Rosewood fretboard

Needs less:
Sunburst
Ugly pickguard
Big ugly headstock

BobArsecake · Post by **BobArsecake** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:51 am

Reminds me of a Maton. I like it :}

More Cowbell · Post by **More Cowbell** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:01 pm

I love those. It would look betta with a plack pg IMO.

finboy · Post by **finboy** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:00 pm

e-mailed him about shipping, i would agree on the black, i might have enough spare pick guard material from my cyclone/mustang project if i do manage to wrangle one of these away from rondo with postal service shipping

More Cowbell · Post by **More Cowbell** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:05 pm

Looks hawt as is. Maybe try no pg, that could look hawter.

finboy · Post by **finboy** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:18 pm

i was thinking about it as my other semi-hollows don't have one either, i'd have to see how many holes are in the black part of the burst. anything in black can be filled and dyed easily enough

deadonkey · Post by **deadonkey** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:44 pm

http://www.rondomusic.com/product1145.html

fuck it's back in stock

do want

Aeon · Post by **Aeon** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:11 pm

These things look great on paper, but the ones I've played have been seriously lacking. I used to own an Agile ES335 copy, and it played and sounded pretty poor. The body wood looked decent, but didn't resonant very well. The rosewood on the neck was mediocre at best. Also the finish felt very plastic-y.

Perhaps the higher up Agile models are a lot better. I just know with the lower-end models, you can figure that you'll want to be replacing the electronics, pickups, the nut, and maybe the tuners. You also mentioned the high shipping cost. Once you consider all these things it doesn't really seem like such a good deal anymore.

I mean maybe it's cork sniffing, but there are very few foreign made instruments that felt as good or seemed as well put together as the American equivalent of that model. And once they are modified to be better, you've almost spent the cost of a what the 'real deal' would have been if you bought a used one. If you decide to trade it in later, you can't recoup most of what you spent on it, whereas you could with a US instrument.

Sorry, I don't mean to rain on your parade, just you should consider saving your money and getting a used Rickenbacker 12 string later. They aren't particularly hard to find, and I think you'll like it a lot more than this one, which might end up just being a novelty.

finboy · Post by **finboy** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:16 pm

i've heard some things about the lower end models but the higher end ones have had better reviews. this one uses a graphite nut and apparently the pickups are pretty good, so i think it might be worth the buy if i can get a decent shipping quote.

i just can't see getting enough use out of a 12 string to drop over a grand on a rick.

Aeon · Post by **Aeon** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:02 pm

Yeah, sorry if I came across as a dick. For a model like this, it makes sense since a 12 string might not be used enough to justify the expense of a Rickenbacker.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:05 pm

If you're looking for a good 12 on the cheap you might want to consider a dano.

JamesSmann · Post by **JamesSmann** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:13 pm

that 12 looks fucking sexy as shit!

Will · Post by **Will** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:00 pm

Why is a small-bodied semi hollow thinline 9lbs? What the hell kind of wood is it?

westtexasred · Post by **westtexasred** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:22 pm

How bout a Vox 12 string? Phantom Guitarworks makes copies of these for $799.

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Or how bout a a Phantom 9-string?

finboy · Post by **finboy** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:12 pm

Aeon wrote:Yeah, sorry if I came across as a dick. For a model like this, it makes sense since a 12 string might not be used enough to justify the expense of a Rickenbacker.

no worries, you raised valid points.

i was going to build a jazzmaster xii, but sourcing a decent neck proved challenging

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:42 am

I saw that, since I'm also in the market for a cheap(ish) 12 string...My initial impression was good until I realized the pickguard is chrome which just doesn't sit right with the sunburst finish. I also have no idea how those pickups would sound. Danelectros and Daisy Rocks can be had unter $400 also, both of which in my opinion are more solid designs.

finboy · Post by **finboy** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:55 am

so i snagged it, first mods planned are some witch hat knobs to replace the stock ones, working on a black pick guard, and i'm also considering swapping the pickups. they sound great but i'm getting microphonic feedback at high volume levels and anything with dirt and even the slightest gain. Any ideas on getting rid of this issue? the stock pickups sound good, it's just a shame i can't push the level to high.

other than the issue with the feedback, it is a great guitar, the finish is nice, the action was surprisingly perfect from the factory, the neck is nice and thick, and it really has a wide variety of sounds available thanks to the 3 pickup configuration.

gaybear · Post by **gaybear** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:49 am

Zaphod wrote:It's really pretty in some ways, but fugly in others.

Needs moar:
F holes
Blocks
Rosewood fretboard

Needs less:
Sunburst
Ugly pickguard
Big ugly headstock

just the on fhole is nice
blocks are cool, i agree
i prefer the ebony

i don't mind sunburst, but fair enough
i dig it
it's 12strings