How to regulate drive in Fuzz War?

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:15 am

Yeah, you're unlikely to learn very much opening up a nintendo cartrdge.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:20 am

calm down mate.

the ITS MINE I BOUGHT IT argument is piss poor, why don't they let you play unlicensed cartridges on the snes then? it's YOURS YOU BOUGHT IT? why can't you now make and sell copies of a dvd you own? ITS YOURS YOU BOUGHT IT! You own the catridge, you don't own the rights and hte patents to the catridge as well as the copyrighted material on the actual chip do you?

the warranty is over? and? what should they make some fucking time release screws that spring out when the warranty is over or should nintendo come around and retrofit normal screws to the fucking cartridge? how is he babying you? it problaby is made to be tamper proof, they don't want you fucking around on the inside of their cartridge.

william · Post by **william** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:21 am

BacchusPaul wrote:Yeah, you're unlikely to learn very much opening up a nintendo cartrdge.

you don't know until you try.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:22 am

william wrote:
BacchusPaul wrote:Yeah, you're unlikely to learn very much opening up a nintendo cartrdge.
you don't know until you try.

That's the attitude. Keep opening them cartridges and keep you learning.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:23 am

william wrote:
BacchusPaul wrote:Yeah, you're unlikely to learn very much opening up a nintendo cartrdge.
you don't know until you try.

What can you gain from it? Unless you want to follow the PCB paths or stare at an IC chip you're going to get anywhere. Might learn something if you wanted to circuit bend or something.

Taking things apart to circuit bend them I can get behind, it's really quite fun when it actually works, not likely to work with a nintendo cartridge though.

william · Post by **william** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:28 am

Zaphod wrote:calm down mate.

the ITS MINE I BOUGHT IT argument is piss poor, why don't they let you play unlicensed cartridges on the snes then? it's YOURS YOU BOUGHT IT? why can't you now make and sell copies of a dvd you own? ITS YOURS YOU BOUGHT IT! You own the catridge, you don't own the rights and hte patents to the catridge as well as the copyrighted material on the actual chip do you?

the warranty is over? and? what should they make some fucking time release screws that spring out when the warranty is over or should nintendo come around and retrofit normal screws to the fucking cartridge? how is he babying you? it problaby is made to be tamper proof, they don't want you fucking around on the inside of their cartridge.

"You own the catridge, you don't own the rights and hte patents to the catridge as well as the copyrighted material on the actual chip do you?"

intellectual rights protection and some kind of "eyes only" ideology are completely different. you are confusing issues here.

anyway i am calm. i may have dropped too many F bombs back there, i do that all the time regardless in real life.

the warranty is unnecessary in this case anyway. what the fuck does nintedo care if i void their warranty? and it is my warranty, i bought it.

also, is it my cartridge, or theirs? you seem to be confused on this issue.

i think fender should put similar screws in their pickguards so none of us can modify their perfect designs, or learn anything about how our guitars work.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:32 am

You're an idiot.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:32 am

you said the warranty is over as though that was some sort of case against nintendo, the warranty is over but that makes bugger all difference to them making it difficult to open a cartridge.

anyway im nae good at arguing so i'm gonna step out before i crash and burn.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:32 am

BacchusPaul wrote:You're an idiot.

or this hahahaha.

william · Post by **william** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:37 am

Zaphod wrote:
william wrote:
BacchusPaul wrote:Yeah, you're unlikely to learn very much opening up a nintendo cartrdge.
you don't know until you try.
What can you gain from it? Unless you want to follow the PCB paths or stare at an IC chip you're going to get anywhere. Might learn something if you wanted to circuit bend or something.

Taking things apart to circuit bend them I can get behind, it's really quite fun when it actually works, not likely to work with a nintendo cartridge though.

i would like you to reconsider the concept that "you don't know until you try."

also, im not an idiot. just for the record.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:40 am

you do know before you try. even when i was little i didn't take apart snes catridges because the actual content of them was the interesting bit, not the operation. calculators and phones were at the mercy of the screwdriver however.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:42 am

For me it was mechanical things, like toy cars and stuff.

william · Post by **william** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:47 am

Zaphod wrote:you do know before you try. even when i was little i didn't take apart snes catridges because the actual content of them was the interesting bit, not the operation. calculators and phones were at the mercy of the screwdriver however.

well i didn't know before i tried (unsure how you did. x ray vision?). which i didn't because i couldnt find the right tool. not sure how you knew what the inside of an SNES cartridge looked like before you looked inside of one. chips, yeah. and green boards. but alot of stuff has funny/interesting words printed on the PCB, like dreamcast VMUs have "POTATO" on the PCB, and Dreamcast itself had "KATANA." that was the codename for the dreamcast waaay back, if you dont know.

if SNES carts had philips head screws, im sure i wouldve opened up a few of them and compared them. bigger games would have more memory, and games like starfox had the superFX chip, which i would have been interested to see.

i dont understand what makes calculators more interesting than videogame cartridges. i also took those apart, and phones, yeah.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:50 am

input and output my good man. calculator has all them buttons and the screen, snes just has the contacts at the botton. more to see when there's more on it

actually i did enjoy looking over PCBs even then, i expect i would have liked to open up a snes cart but it never really occured to me since they seemed impenetrable then. i'd like to open up my starwing cart actually, if i had the tools i'd do it now just out of curiosity.

my argument has fallen to pieces.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:54 am

I knew what was inside a snes cart: crap that meant nothing to me that I would have no chance of udnerstanding and every chance of breaking. I didn't take the stuff I got as a kid for granted, so there's no way I would risk breaking anything.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:56 am

BacchusPaul wrote:I knew what was inside a snes cart: crap that meant nothing to me that I would have no chance of udnerstanding and every chance of breaking. I didn't take the stuff I got as a kid for granted, so there's no way I would risk breaking anything.

yeah i stopped taking stuff apart quickly after i realised i couldn't put it back together normally. curiosty never goes away though. when i broke my mouse a while back i had it apart minutes later mainly just to have a look since it was already buggered.

william · Post by **william** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:00 am

Zaphod wrote:input and output my good man. calculator has all them buttons and the screen, snes just has the contacts at the botton. more to see when there's more on it

actually i did enjoy looking over PCBs even then, i expect i would have liked to open up a snes cart but it never really occured to me since they seemed impenetrable then. i'd like to open up my starwing cart actually, if i had the tools i'd do it now just out of curiosity.

my argument has fallen to pieces.

it occurred to me. if you can't tell, this is a frustration with roots from my early childhood.

whether its useful or not, i think people should have the right to physically take apart and examine their possessions. that is my point. software is the same.

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Mages · Post by **Mages** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:07 am

william wrote:
BacchusPaul wrote:Yeah, you're unlikely to learn very much opening up a nintendo cartrdge.
you don't know until you try.

ACTUALLY, since you all have brought it up...

what might you find in a nintendo cartridge? have a listen to this my friends; in the very early nintendo games (the dozen or so different games made by nintendo) they actually used the PCBs from the japanese FAMICOM games (famicom is the japanese market nintendo, short for family computer). so, since they used the original PCB, they had to use a converter inside the cartridge (NES cartridges are much bigger than famicom cartridges so this is easy to fit in there). THATS RIGHT MY FRIENDS, in the early games there is actually a converter inside the cartridge; if you take apart the cartridge you can take out the converter and use it to play any famicom game you like.

a lot of people take apart Gyromite since that game is worthless if you don't have the little robot. I am not bullshiting you. I have actually done this myself. the only thing is, heh, the early games just had phillips head screws not the triangle whateverthefuck ones.

MutantParty · Post by **MutantParty** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:25 am

mage wrote:
william wrote:
BacchusPaul wrote:Yeah, you're unlikely to learn very much opening up a nintendo cartrdge.
you don't know until you try.
ACTUALLY, since you all have brought it up...

what might you find in a nintendo cartridge? have a listen to this my friends; in the very early nintendo games (the dozen or so different games made by nintendo) they actually used the PCBs from the japanese FAMICOM games (famicom is the japanese market nintendo, short for family computer). so, since they used the original PCB, they had to use a converter inside the cartridge (NES cartridges are much bigger than famicom cartridges so this is easy to fit in there). THATS RIGHT MY FRIENDS, in the early games there is actually a converter inside the cartridge; if you take apart the cartridge you can take out the converter and use it to play any famicom game you like.

a lot of people take apart Gyromite since that game is worthless if you don't have the little robot. I am not bullshiting you. I have actually done this myself. the only thing is, heh, the early games just had phillips head screws not the triangle whateverthefuck ones.

Science: dropped.

william · Post by **william** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:19 am

mage wrote:
william wrote:
BacchusPaul wrote:Yeah, you're unlikely to learn very much opening up a nintendo cartrdge.
you don't know until you try.
ACTUALLY, since you all have brought it up...

what might you find in a nintendo cartridge? have a listen to this my friends; in the very early nintendo games (the dozen or so different games made by nintendo) they actually used the PCBs from the japanese FAMICOM games (famicom is the japanese market nintendo, short for family computer). so, since they used the original PCB, they had to use a converter inside the cartridge (NES cartridges are much bigger than famicom cartridges so this is easy to fit in there). THATS RIGHT MY FRIENDS, in the early games there is actually a converter inside the cartridge; if you take apart the cartridge you can take out the converter and use it to play any famicom game you like.

a lot of people take apart Gyromite since that game is worthless if you don't have the little robot. I am not bullshiting you. I have actually done this myself. the only thing is, heh, the early games just had phillips head screws not the triangle whateverthefuck ones.

nice! i didn't know that!

gyromite was worthless even WITH the little robot

i might have to crack open an old game now!