how sucky are these? (WTF??!)

william · Post by **william** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:27 am

i could get one for the price of one fancy boutique pedal (which i normally fancy, yeh), and it could stand in for when im like "fuck, i need chorus for like this one thing, or some pitchy harmony stuff or univibe or whathave you" but i havent dropped the next 80-200 dollars for my next "more serious pedal addition."

does that make sense?

it has resale value, and it cant sound THAT bad, right? ...right?

EDIT- not sure why this doubled. can someone fix?

Will · Post by **Will** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:29 am

They are not bad. The effects are generic sounding, but sometimes you need that.

william · Post by **william** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:38 am

DuoSonicBoy wrote:They are not bad. The effects are generic sounding, but sometimes you need that.

see, that was kinda my logic. i tend to fancy the more esoteric effects, from smaller makers, and dont really wanna spend alot of time/money on ordinary boss type standard FX. and if i have this running along my mammoth and my future TGD and analog delay, i figure the genericness of the boss FX wont really come thru all that much.

Josh · Post by **Josh** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:39 am

There pretty good actually. Jun626 on youtube uses one. For the money they cover a lot of pedals though.

mickie08 · Post by **mickie08** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:55 am

the biggest problem with these type things is if you have a bunch of patches set up in them it can be alot of tapdancing between settings, also getting all the settings to sound right with different pedals/amps/etc. That said, they can be handy and I have used the biger version (gt-6 at that time) directly into a sound board at small bars with a great PA but not alot of stage room.

william · Post by **william** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:02 am

mickie08 wrote:the biggest problem with these type things is if you have a bunch of patches set up in them it can be alot of tapdancing between settings, also getting all the settings to sound right with different pedals/amps/etc. That said, they can be handy and I have used the biger version (gt-6 at that time) directly into a sound board at small bars with a great PA but not alot of stage room.

this is kind of why im looking at this simpler, more stompboxey one. less "tapdancing" (i love that.)

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:26 am

I have a knee-jerk reaction to multi-effects units that probably comes from the fact that I have a nice set of valve amps and vintage-styled guitars and pedals to choose from, and I started out on a Digitech RP200 or something way back in the day (even though I bought it along with my Dano U2).

This is a mistake, and I have to check myself when it happens. Multi-effects units can be atrocious, with some fairly obvious examples, but the larger "floorboard" types are getting even better than they were back when I started playing in the nineties, and that particular Boss board has surprised me a few times. Generic, sure, but like the vast majority of individual pedals from many other manufacturers. It's laid out well, has knobs instead of silly LED displays and basically works.

MaMo · Post by **MaMo** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:04 am

ekwatts wrote:
This is a mistake, and I have to check myself when it happens. Multi-effects units can be atrocious, with some fairly obvious examples, but the larger "floorboard" types are getting even better than they were back when I started playing in the nineties, and that particular Boss board has surprised me a few times. Generic, sure, but like the vast majority of individual pedals from many other manufacturers. It's laid out well, has knobs instead of silly LED displays and basically works.

+1. The mulit-effects have come a long way and if you're on a budget they are a legitimate option now IMO.

Also, didn't Mike do a demo of this guy?

Post by **Mike** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:51 am

Arsecake and I did:

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Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:48 pm

Kings of Leon, or Coldplay use them. Dunno how that weighs in to the argument.

On saying that, I don't think they were on stage in the boards/racks. I think they were in a case backstage as spares in case they were needed or something.

aphasiac · Post by **aphasiac** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:54 pm

My experience; the delays and modulations are really good, the distortions are pretty bad. Only the big muff and RAT models I found usable.

Oh yeh, wah and pitch shift were decent too, and seen plenty of bands use em live, so yes recommended.

EDIT: oh yes, one big problem; in "patch" mode there is a 0.5 second sound drop-out when changing patches. So if you want to go from one set of 3 pedals to another set of 3 separate pedals quickly and uninterrupted, forget it. Turning each of the individual pedals on/off in manual mode is fine though.

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:00 pm

BacchusPaul wrote:Kings of Leon, or Coldplay use them. Dunno how that weighs in to the argument.

I think the guy from Coldplay uses some pretty sweet gear, saw an interview with him in GP and he had vintage/re-issue Jags/teles, an old RAT and marshall plexis/twin reverbs.
Too bad he only knows 4 high notes on the guitar. I'll bet a chord or two would sound great through all that.

Post by **Mike** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:02 pm

haha.. yeah he has good taste. Especially the Jagaurs. He used Hot Rods for ages though, weirdo. You're facking RICH, get a good amp.

The Boss ME-50 is miles ahead of the state of Multiple Effect units when I started playing guitar. For practise the dirt sounds are actually pretty damn good, I don't know if they would get shrill at high volume though. Depends what you're injecting it into.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:06 pm

paul_ wrote:
BacchusPaul wrote:Kings of Leon, or Coldplay use them. Dunno how that weighs in to the argument.
I think the guy from Coldplay uses some pretty sweet gear, saw an interview with him in GP and he had vintage/re-issue Jags/teles, an old RAT and marshall plexis/twin reverbs.
Too bad he only knows 4 high notes on the guitar. I'll bet a chord or two would sound great through all that.

They had a fucking massive rig. I wonder how good they sound without, probably a lot like two buskers.

They had a rack full of Tele Deluxes, which was nice. Apart from that they had a rack of P-basses, and I remember an acoustic guitar too. Everything looked shit, because everything had Viva la Diva scratchplates and such, so they were all garish. Amp wise, I remember there being a Marshall singe channel yoke, and a big Fender.

That's probably just their touring setup though. I'm sure they use different things in the studio.

kim · Post by **kim** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:12 pm

this one's been out for some time right ? i never owned one but did use one in high school jamming with some friends, it had like rat and big muff emulator thing... i remember i didn't like it much though. not for distortion anyway. modulation and the pitch shifting is what i liked to use it for.

also in another band i used to play in my friend had an old boss multi effects it was dark blue, with an lcd... i can't find a picture. i did see it in a picture a while ago of sperm javelin playing i think they were using it.

kim · Post by **kim** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:26 pm

this:

i think i would only like it now because it would remind me of high school

suede · Post by **suede** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:01 pm

I believe Johnny Marr used a GT5 at one point...I had a GT6 and sold it like 3 years ago...

light rail coyote · Post by **light rail coyote** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:11 pm

I saw him buy one from a guitar shop in Portland, haha

william · Post by **william** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:38 am

sounds like its good for what id use it for. thanks guys!

Josh · Post by **Josh** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:55 am

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He uses a ME-50 for all of his TONEZ. It kinda gets the job done, Its not exactly the same as what the beatles used though.