Zaphod wrote:since when does colour theory apply to someone's fucking guitar?
he's not designing a website for a company, he's screwing a bit of plastic to a guitar.
offense definately taken, sorry our eyes aren't as educated as yours. i do know about colour theory, but i also know that adhereing to theories doesn't make for interesting design.
Well, anytime you are designing something, you should take into consideration which colours work with one another. There are certain colours that do not mix well with certain applications, and brighter shades of green and black do not go well together when it comes to nearly anything; and when it does, it must be done very carefully in order for it to not look like what I was talking about in my last post.
I'm curious -- what would come to mind if you saw a black car with bright green wheels going down the road?
And I did not say anything about not using faux mother of pearl pickguards -- I was referring to the ones that look very unnatural and cheap (bright red, green blue, etc).
Zaphod wrote:since when does colour theory apply to someone's fucking guitar?
he's not designing a website for a company, he's screwing a bit of plastic to a guitar.
offense definately taken, sorry our eyes aren't as educated as yours. i do know about colour theory, but i also know that adhereing to theories doesn't make for interesting design.
so uhh yeah, on re-reading that came of a bit sharp, just want to reel it back in a bit about the being offended bit.
Zaphod wrote:since when does colour theory apply to someone's fucking guitar?
he's not designing a website for a company, he's screwing a bit of plastic to a guitar.
offense definately taken, sorry our eyes aren't as educated as yours. i do know about colour theory, but i also know that adhereing to theories doesn't make for interesting design.
Well, anytime you are designing something, you should take into consideration which colours work with one another. There are certain colours that do not mix well with certain applications, and brighter shades of green and black do not go well together when it comes to nearly anything; and when it does, it must be done very carefully in order for it to not look like what I was talking about in my last post.
I'm curious -- what would come to mind if you saw a black car with bright green wheels going down the road?
And I did not say anything about not using faux mother of pearl pickguards -- I was referring to the ones that look very unnatural and cheap (bright red, green blue, etc).
i like the combination of green and black on things.
so what, are my eyes broken?
actually i like the combination when the green is quite conservatively used. preferrably small amounts of concentrated green framed by black if we want to go that specific. i still like this thing because it's very different.
of course you take into account your colours when designing but i reiternate, it's a guitar. he's not designing it for a batch of 1000 to be made, it's a one off and i doubt he's too bothered about other people's reactions to it.
What does the amount of guitars being made have to do with anything? The decision has to be made no matter what. It's not even a tough decision as there are not very many choices unless he decides to paint it.
Honestly, I don't care if it is going to be black and green, and you really shouldn't give a fuck about what I think; I was simply stating my opinion just in case it was helpful to someone.
I'm with the Narco Martenot on this one (as mentioned on the first page, but I bailed out since you all seem to have graduated from the Stevie Wonder school of aesthetics). And colour theory can apply whenever there is colour, doofuszaphod. And yes, while rules are there to be broken (see, for example, my surf green guitar with a brown tort guard), this guitar runs the real risk of rocking the "Halloween Clipart" vibe a little too strongly. If you must do it, at least don't use green pearl - just a straight up green guard.
And Narco Martentot, I like your login name. Another fan of the groop.
colour theory can apply anywhere there is colour but narco spoke of it like it was the be all and end all.
i think colour theory would apply somewhere you're trying to attract or entice someone to something. blue and orange comliment each other well yet if you had an orange guitar with a bright blue guard it'd look like a tonka toy.
that said i'm not saying the combination isn't hideous, i just like it for it's hideousness.
but it's cold in the box. the wheel isn't even big enough for me.
i didn't mean to be nasty, it's how it comes off. i felt he was being slightly condascending though, as though he was going to sweep in with colour theory and enlighten us to see the error of our ways.
anyway i'm quite done here, i sense a rock and hard place type situation here.
its endsjustifymean's guitar he can do what he wants to it. if he likes it then he did a good job theres your colour theory right there.
and Narco Martenot aren't you making a guitar out of petrified wood and ostrich skin? obviously you dont know about colour theory.
(i'm not saying this to be bitchy sorry if it comes off that way)
the_dude wrote:its endsjustifymean's guitar he can do what he wants to it. if he likes it then he did a good job theres your colour theory right there.
and Narco Martenot aren't you making a guitar out of petrified wood and ostrich skin? obviously you dont know about colour theory.
(i'm not saying this to be bitchy sorry if it comes off that way)
colour isn't the only thing to be taken into consideration with design, there's also what the end user requires, and the end user in this case is endsjustifymeans... and not no-one else. there's a large clue in the name he's given it (franken-sonic) plus the fact that he's more or less stated he wants it to look ugly.
therefore, if he likes it, it's fine. feedback loop, ken?
different if he was planning on putting them into production and try to sell them. although i suspect, like anything, it would have adherents. there's an awful lot of ugly things in the world that have been designed by people. no point being snobby about it unless all of a sudden every guitar on the market looks like it's been put together by a blind cat (not a description of this one, necessarily).
or something.
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the_dude wrote:its endsjustifymean's guitar he can do what he wants to it. if he likes it then he did a good job theres your colour theory right there.
and Narco Martenot aren't you making a guitar out of petrified wood and ostrich skin? obviously you dont know about colour theory.
(i'm not saying this to be bitchy sorry if it comes off that way)
This all springs from the initial post asking what we think. Go piss up a rope.
benecol wrote:And yes, while rules are there to be broken (see, for example, my surf green guitar with a brown tort guard),
No, that's an example where you should have just stayed with a white guard. Tort on Greens and Blues is ugly as shit.
I disagree. If it's nice, faithfully reproduced tortoiseshell (I say this because there is a lot of horrible looking tortoiseshell pickguard material available), then no, it will work on bold colours, or just about any colour for that matter; especially solid colour bodies and some sunburst. Tortoiseshell is very traditional and is very easy to pair with just about anything. To me, it's the same way a maple or rosewood fretboard can work with any colour body.
Narco Martenot wrote:No offense, but you guys do not know much about colour theory, do you? 99% of the time, do not mix green and black -- especially that type of green. It just screams "extreme soda/pro wrestling ad from the 90s".
And any sort of faux-mother of pearl pickguard material in anything other than white or off-white just cheapens whatever it is on. With white, it at least looks like it is trying to imitate the real thing where as that sort of green, blue, red, etc just looks so incredibly fake and tacky. A good rule of thumb is to avoid any pickguard that looks like it might have come from WD Pickguards as they make a ton of atrocious shit that should not exist.
who the fuck are you? who the fuck cares about color theory? that sounds like some bullshit made up term so that interior decorators can feel like they have some kind of fucking scientific degree. it's a guitar for fuck's sake. at the end of the day, it's only his opinion on his own fucking guitar that matters.
i don't like this narco guy.
i hope ends does the green and black just piss this cocksucker off..
jesus christ. sometimes people around here suck the "ART" out of a guitar. seriously...where's the fucking fun in anything if there's all these bullshit rules associated with making your guitar look however the fuck you want? it just comes over really stuffy and lamegay.
