Tunerss
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Tunerss
Anyone got suggestions for a good cheap affordable tuner? No need for flashy strobes, or chromatic tuning, and invincibility (im very careful with pedals, and i dont move them around often).
However i do like one that has an input and output so it can be used in an effects chain. No footswitch needed (im perefectly fine with reaching down and tuning) and no sound cutoff needed (where i play, no gives a damn when you're tuning).
Overall something cheap and simple. However i DO like a pedal that has a mic because id like to tune my Violin also.
I have my eye on the Korg CA-40. But the only thing stopping me is that the bypass might not be perfect (if anyone owns one of these, tell me how good the Bypass is). So yeah a good Bypass would be great as well.
However i do like one that has an input and output so it can be used in an effects chain. No footswitch needed (im perefectly fine with reaching down and tuning) and no sound cutoff needed (where i play, no gives a damn when you're tuning).
Overall something cheap and simple. However i DO like a pedal that has a mic because id like to tune my Violin also.
I have my eye on the Korg CA-40. But the only thing stopping me is that the bypass might not be perfect (if anyone owns one of these, tell me how good the Bypass is). So yeah a good Bypass would be great as well.
I have an older version of the Sabine STX-1100. The one I have is the ST-1500, which had features the old ST-1000 didn't have, but they've since combined them all into the STX-1100. This unit does have a microphone; I find it handy to be able to hum a note into to find its pitch or use it on my acoustic guitar.
I've had mine for about fifteen years now and it still works perfectly. It has survived way too many drops from hand to ground. The battery lasts an unbelievably long time. I've found it to be quite accurate, and I miss having it when not at home. I've begun using a TU-2 because I found a beat-up used one for cheap and I like the silent tuning capability. Once I build a pedal board and settle on a layout, I will go back to using the Sabine.
I have absolutely no idea why no one speaks of Sabine anymore. These things were absolutely top-of-the-line in the early '90s and have possibly become ignored because there's not a new model every year in a new color with arbitrary new features and a $10 price increase. This is essentially the same tuner I purchased in 1994, and it's around $30 cheaper. I don't know of many other products in this industry that have remained unchanged for this long and have actually become less expensive to buy new.
You could always go the route of using something like an Ernie Ball volume pedal or something else with a Tuner Out so you don't have to tune out loud.
I've had mine for about fifteen years now and it still works perfectly. It has survived way too many drops from hand to ground. The battery lasts an unbelievably long time. I've found it to be quite accurate, and I miss having it when not at home. I've begun using a TU-2 because I found a beat-up used one for cheap and I like the silent tuning capability. Once I build a pedal board and settle on a layout, I will go back to using the Sabine.
I have absolutely no idea why no one speaks of Sabine anymore. These things were absolutely top-of-the-line in the early '90s and have possibly become ignored because there's not a new model every year in a new color with arbitrary new features and a $10 price increase. This is essentially the same tuner I purchased in 1994, and it's around $30 cheaper. I don't know of many other products in this industry that have remained unchanged for this long and have actually become less expensive to buy new.
You could always go the route of using something like an Ernie Ball volume pedal or something else with a Tuner Out so you don't have to tune out loud.
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Deciding factors:
-Can the fender tuner take this contact mic so i could tune my violin?
-Does the Sabine Tuner have True Bypass?
-Can the fender tuner take this contact mic so i could tune my violin?
-Does the Sabine Tuner have True Bypass?
The Sabine passes the signal through regardless of whether or not there's even a battery in the unit (I just verified this), so it's definitely not buffered bypass. I suppose this means, by definition, that it's true or direct bypass.avntzen wrote:Deciding factors:
-Can the fender tuner take this contact mic so i could tune my violin?
-Does the Sabine Tuner have True Bypass?
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Afraid not. You can use output only DPDT switching and still have this effect.avj wrote:The Sabine passes the signal through regardless of whether or not there's even a battery in the unit (I just verified this), so it's definitely not buffered bypass. I suppose this means, by definition, that it's true or direct bypass.avntzen wrote:Deciding factors:
-Can the fender tuner take this contact mic so i could tune my violin?
-Does the Sabine Tuner have True Bypass?
Not that buffered bypass is bad or anything, True Bypass and Buffered Bypass both have their place. Personally I think the Korg Buffer sounds great and I like having it in my signal chain, which also has a Klon buffer in it with my other pedals all being True Bypass.
I stand corrected -- I hadn't thought of that. It doesn't have a hard-throw switch of any kind, so I guess it can't really be true bypass. Thanks Mike.Mike wrote:Afraid not. You can use output only DPDT switching and still have this effect.avj wrote:The Sabine passes the signal through regardless of whether or not there's even a battery in the unit (I just verified this), so it's definitely not buffered bypass. I suppose this means, by definition, that it's true or direct bypass.avntzen wrote:Deciding factors:
-Can the fender tuner take this contact mic so i could tune my violin?
-Does the Sabine Tuner have True Bypass?
Not that buffered bypass is bad or anything, True Bypass and Buffered Bypass both have their place. Personally I think the Korg Buffer sounds great and I like having it in my signal chain, which also has a Klon buffer in it with my other pedals all being True Bypass.
Relevant to the topic, I just came across a couple of interesting bits of research on tuners and true bypass (lank 1, lank 2) that seem to have some good insight on some popular tuners.
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Surely a pedal's very floor-based nature means a built-in mic is a fairly daft idea? Unless you fancy lying down to tune your violin..avntzen wrote:However i DO like a pedal that has a mic because id like to tune my Violin also.
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Pedal for guitar setup. Violin for studio sessions mostly. Unhooking the pedal takes like, what, three seconds? I dont wanna buy multiple tuners for two separate instruments.Doog wrote:Surely a pedal's very floor-based nature means a built-in mic is a fairly daft idea? Unless you fancy lying down to tune your violin..avntzen wrote:However i DO like a pedal that has a mic because id like to tune my Violin also.
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Very cool links, thanksfor those. INteresting reading.avj wrote:I stand corrected -- I hadn't thought of that. It doesn't have a hard-throw switch of any kind, so I guess it can't really be true bypass. Thanks Mike.Mike wrote:Afraid not. You can use output only DPDT switching and still have this effect.avj wrote: The Sabine passes the signal through regardless of whether or not there's even a battery in the unit (I just verified this), so it's definitely not buffered bypass. I suppose this means, by definition, that it's true or direct bypass.
Not that buffered bypass is bad or anything, True Bypass and Buffered Bypass both have their place. Personally I think the Korg Buffer sounds great and I like having it in my signal chain, which also has a Klon buffer in it with my other pedals all being True Bypass.
Relevant to the topic, I just came across a couple of interesting bits of research on tuners and true bypass (lank 1, lank 2) that seem to have some good insight on some popular tuners.