Which goes first in effects chain?

Pickups, pedals, amps, cabs, combos

Moderated By: mods

User avatar
westtexasred
Shortscale Cultural Minister
Posts: 16977
Joined: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:10 pm
Location: Minneapolis

Which goes first in effects chain?

Post by westtexasred »

I bought a One-Spot power supply so that I could make a little pedalboard .Is the the right order to put them in them?

Guitar > Compressor>Reverb>Distortion(1)>Distortion(2)>amp

or would you put the compressor after the reverb?

Image
User avatar
James
Nutmeg
Posts: 10645
Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:15 pm
Location: Boxingham Palace

Post by James »

It depends on which you plan on using at the same time. If you only ever have the reverb on without the distortion, its position only matters relative to the compressor.

Distortions compress your signal but in a different way to a dynamic compressor, so you should try experimenting with having it before or after but it depends a lot on how much gain you use.

I would go for something along the lines of -

Dist 1 > Comp > Dist 2 > Reverb
Shabba.
User avatar
Haze
.
.
Posts: 4924
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:27 am
Location: Tulsa, OK
Contact:

Post by Haze »

reverb is usually last
because it models natural reverberation in the environment
probably doesn't make sense

either way, good to see another rv7 player :wink:
User avatar
westtexasred
Shortscale Cultural Minister
Posts: 16977
Joined: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:10 pm
Location: Minneapolis

Post by westtexasred »

Haze wrote:reverb is usually last
because it models natural reverberation in the environment
probably doesn't make sense

either way, good to see another rv7 player :wink:
Ok thanks guys.

Yeah The HardWire RV makes my lttle Vibro Champ Sound huge!
User avatar
timhulio
Redheaded Stepchild
Posts: 4693
Joined: Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:06 am
Location: London, UK
Contact:

Post by timhulio »

I'd have thought:

Dist
Comp
Reverb/Delay
User avatar
ultratwin
The 25.5" subversion
Posts: 6731
Joined: Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:47 pm
Location: Seoul

Post by ultratwin »

I'd most always go like this:

Comp -> Dist1 -> Dist2 -> Verb

Some TDPRI guys have talked about comp at the end of the chain, but I like the comp coloration going on to my clean signal, rather than having my multi-pedal high gain turd distortion mess hitting the compressor so hard it just feels like an anti-dynamic limiter of sorts. In addition, the option of a clean boost with the comp kicked in to drive the front end of the next drive pedal in line can be useful to some. Orange Squeezer-type comps practically do this one automatically, and they (OS-type comps in particular) can sound great to keep the beef up, adding mid-lo girth and stuff to one's overdrive while providing decent compression when needed.
User avatar
NBarnes21
.
.
Posts: 57
Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:37 am
Location: Yes

Post by NBarnes21 »

ultratwin wrote:I'd most always go like this:

Comp -> Dist1 -> Dist2 -> Verb

Some TDPRI guys have talked about comp at the end of the chain, but I like the comp coloration going on to my clean signal, rather than having my multi-pedal high gain turd distortion mess hitting the compressor so hard it just feels like an anti-dynamic limiter of sorts. In addition, the option of a clean boost with the comp kicked in to drive the front end of the next drive pedal in line can be useful to some. Orange Squeezer-type comps practically do this one automatically, and they (OS-type comps in particular) can sound great to keep the beef up, adding mid-lo girth and stuff to one's overdrive while providing decent compression when needed.
agreed on all accounts
User avatar
ekwatts
A series of tubes
Posts: 24579
Joined: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:35 pm
Location: Bongchester

Post by ekwatts »

I've never used a compressor. It's one of those "effects" I can't be arsed messing with and don't think I need it. It's in the same category as reverb for me. Nice if I have them, not arsed if I don't. Chorus used to be in that category, but I actually like using a little of that now.
Image
Brandon W wrote:you elites.
User avatar
the isaac eaton
.
.
Posts: 1011
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:48 am
Location: Kennewick, WA free country USA
Contact:

Post by the isaac eaton »

ekwatts wrote:I've never used a compressor. It's one of those "effects" I can't be arsed messing with and don't think I need it. It's in the same category as reverb for me. Nice if I have them, not arsed if I don't. Chorus used to be in that category, but I actually like using a little of that now.
Im not one for compressors, but i think that reverb is a necessity, it brings so much life into your clean tones, just a little reverb makes everything sound so much more alive. I just use the reverb on my cyber twin, because I can set it how ever i want so it sounds pretty good. Reverb is a good thing! If i had an amp without reverb i would buy a reverb pedal and have it on at all times.
User avatar
timhulio
Redheaded Stepchild
Posts: 4693
Joined: Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:06 am
Location: London, UK
Contact:

Post by timhulio »

ultratwin wrote:I'd most always go like this:

Comp -> Dist1 -> Dist2 -> Verb

Some TDPRI guys have talked about comp at the end of the chain, but I like the comp coloration going on to my clean signal, rather than having my multi-pedal high gain turd distortion mess hitting the compressor so hard it just feels like an anti-dynamic limiter of sorts. In addition, the option of a clean boost with the comp kicked in to drive the front end of the next drive pedal in line can be useful to some. Orange Squeezer-type comps practically do this one automatically, and they (OS-type comps in particular) can sound great to keep the beef up, adding mid-lo girth and stuff to one's overdrive while providing decent compression when needed.
See where you're coming from here, but I quite like that Husker Du, compressed distortion sound- the compressor tightens-up the fuzz/squall.
User avatar
Doog
mid-century modem
Posts: 23127
Joined: Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:49 pm
Location: London

Post by Doog »

ultratwin wrote:I'd most always go like this:

Comp -> Dist1 -> Dist2 -> Verb
Dittoz.
User avatar
chrisplayer7
.
.
Posts: 56
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:46 pm
Location: Brighton, UK

Post by chrisplayer7 »


PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:15 am Post subject:
ultratwin wrote:
I'd most always go like this:

Comp -> Dist1 -> Dist2 -> Verb


Dittoz.
+1
I would recommend the Micro POG to anyone
User avatar
Doog
mid-century modem
Posts: 23127
Joined: Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:49 pm
Location: London

Post by Doog »

But that's very much standard usage- fun can be had putting the comp after the 'verb, distortion after the verb..
User avatar
Nick
Y'SEE!?
Posts: 9526
Joined: Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:13 am
Location: Albany, NY

Post by Nick »

chrisplayer7 wrote:

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:15 am Post subject:
ultratwin wrote:
I'd most always go like this:

Comp -> Dist1 -> Dist2 -> Verb


Dittoz.
+1
Late to the punch on this, but that is the correct order of things.

http://www.bossus.com/boss_users_group/ ... ticleId=39

Of course you can experiment endlessly with different orders if you want to play around and get unique effects.