Everybody's talkin' about....Truss rods

nomorebridge · Post by **nomorebridge** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:14 pm

the're not but I have a question anyways

if on a certain guitar you play a chord for arguments sake a open Am

but it doesn't sound like what you consider to be an Am what is happening here, I have tuned the guitar using my ears, a boss tunner and a pitchblack, all strings are in tune yet when I fret an Am for some reason I hear something closer to a 7th.

Now I'm 100% willing to say it's my ears but is there a chance it could be the truss rod and the neck bowing or something?

DanHeron · Post by **DanHeron** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:29 pm

Intonation? Have you tried setting the intonation up?

Will · Post by **Will** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:02 pm

Have you checked the fretted notes on a tuner? Sometimes the first few frets intonate a bit sharp if the nut is too high.

Sight the neck, from the headstock looking towards the body. Use the strings as straight edges. Does it look bowed or twisted? Hold down the third string on the first and 17th frets: is there a gap between the string and the 9th fret?

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:33 am

It turns out you're an idiot. There is no amount on neck relief (or anything else) than might make an instrument sound wrong.

Have you tried tuning it?

Will · Post by **Will** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:46 am

BacchusPaul wrote:It turns out you're an idiot. There is no amount on neck relief (or anything else) than might make an instrument sound wrong.

Have you tried tuning it?

High fret could do it; back bow is less conceivable but possible. The high ninth fret on my '29 Supertone makes the 8th fret on the top 2 strings sound a half step sharp.

aen · Post by **aen** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:53 am

Yeah. Intonation. =)

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:55 am

DuoSonicBoy wrote:
BacchusPaul wrote:It turns out you're an idiot. There is no amount on neck relief (or anything else) than might make an instrument sound wrong.

Have you tried tuning it?
High fret could do it; back bow is less conceivable but possible. The high ninth fret on my '29 Supertone makes the 8th fret on the top 2 strings sound a half step sharp.

A high fret could make an A minor chord sound as a seventh chord? There's at least one company I'd be looking for money off if that was the case.

Oh, and it turns out I am an idiot. I'm very sorry for ever giving off about anoyone, but for fuck's sake, you ought to be a but more exact.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:54 am

BacchusPaul wrote:It turns out you're an idiot. There is no amount on neck relief (or anything else) than might make an instrument sound wrong.

BacchusPaul wrote:for fuck's sake, you ought to be a but more exact.

WORD HARDER PLS, I'M UNSURE WHAT IT IS YOU'RE TYPING HERE

Will · Post by **Will** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:10 am

BacchusPaul wrote:
DuoSonicBoy wrote:
BacchusPaul wrote:It turns out you're an idiot. There is no amount on neck relief (or anything else) than might make an instrument sound wrong.

Have you tried tuning it?
High fret could do it; back bow is less conceivable but possible. The high ninth fret on my '29 Supertone makes the 8th fret on the top 2 strings sound a half step sharp.
A high fret could make an A minor chord sound as a seventh chord? There's at least one company I'd be looking for money off if that was the case.

Oh, and it turns out I am an idiot. I'm very sorry for ever giving off about anoyone, but for fuck's sake, you ought to be a but more exact.

It's not sounding a 7th, it's sounding something closer to a 7th subjectively.

We must hold fast until nomorebridge sights his neck...

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm

my strat has a similar problem. when i play a d major at the 2nd/3rd fret, the g and b strings are slightly flat. seeing as i've not been using it as much, i've not tried to sort it out. i'm guessing it's the intonation. i use heavy strings on it too, so maybe i'll slacken the neck a little.