Jagstang Project

mcconnachiea · Post by **mcconnachiea** » Mon May 04, 2009 9:09 am

Okay then. Is there anything I can put in the neck pocket to get more sustain? This is what the guitar is centered on now

blacktaxi · Post by **blacktaxi** » Mon May 04, 2009 9:14 am

mcconnachiea wrote:Okay then. Is there anything I can put in the neck pocket to get more sustain? This is what the guitar is centered on now

Get a hard-tail bridge, string through body routing, good setup (this really matters), and appropriate set of strings (thinner - more sustain). Also you can use the G&L factory setup trick - when you just put on the strings, get a screwdriver and unwind neck bolts just a bit, until you hear a click, then screw 'em tight and tune your strings. This should make neck get a bit more deeper into neck pocket, actually as deep as it gets.

theshadowofseattle · Post by **theshadowofseattle** » Mon May 04, 2009 9:14 am

mcconnachiea wrote:Okay then. Is there anything I can put in the neck pocket to get more sustain?

Glue and more neck bolts.

theshadowofseattle · Post by **theshadowofseattle** » Mon May 04, 2009 9:16 am

blacktaxi wrote:appropriate set of strings (thinner - more sustain)

This is the complete opposite of conventional wisdom on the subject.

blacktaxi · Post by **blacktaxi** » Mon May 04, 2009 9:18 am

theshadowofseattle wrote:
blacktaxi wrote:appropriate set of strings (thinner - more sustain)
This is the complete opposite of conventional wisdom on the subject.

Well, if you go too thin you will lose sustain, so I'd say there's the perfect spot for each case.

mcconnachiea · Post by **mcconnachiea** » Mon May 04, 2009 9:20 am

The bridge will be a floyd rose, but I want sustain

Does chambering add sustain?

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Mon May 04, 2009 9:22 am

bump for crackhead guitar

blacktaxi · Post by **blacktaxi** » Mon May 04, 2009 9:25 am

mcconnachiea wrote:The bridge will be a floyd rose, but I want sustain

Does chambering add sustain?

I think you're perfectionizing and you should stop

Also I think chambering won't add sustain, look at the acoustics - they're one big chamber, and solid body guitars have a lot more sustain.

theshadowofseattle · Post by **theshadowofseattle** » Mon May 04, 2009 9:26 am

Seriously, what the fuck kind of music are you playing when you need more than a couple milliseconds of sustain?

PLAY MORE NOTES, KID.

mcconnachiea · Post by **mcconnachiea** » Mon May 04, 2009 9:29 am

Naa, its just that if you fit a floyd to a strat, the note goes as soon as you whammy, on a les paul however the note goes on for a bit after even a divebomb

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Mon May 04, 2009 10:18 am

mcconnachiea wrote:Naa, its just that if you fit a floyd to a strat, the note goes as soon as you whammy, on a les paul however the note goes on for a bit after even a divebomb

There's a pretty good reason why pointy guitar players soak their signal in way too much shitty digital reverb and delay and compress the crap out of it to play their "look at me driving a car with a hot chick next to me" instrumentals.

Actually that's unfair there's plenty of guitarists with floyds who nailed their own tone. On a Strat too (EVH!). Are you vastly generalizing from one example? All guitars are NOT made equal. You can have 5 of the same type guitars in a row and some will be awesome, some will be shit IMHO. Also Les Pauls' with Floyds are hardly common and yes a LP with trad TOM bridge has bags of sustain because everything is solid... but with floyd?

There's always the the Graphtech and Tonepros style 'upgrades' for saddles and Nuts that might do the trick without needing to cement parts together.

One last thing...and take a word of advice from someone who started the most ridiculous project ever trying to get something from parts that just meant a hella trouble - DON'T DO IT! Buy a guitar with the features you want, save you money for a coupla years and then if you still feel the same way get someone to build it properly...

ElCapitan · Post by **ElCapitan** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:08 am

mcconnachiea wrote: get more sustain?

mcconnachiea · Post by **mcconnachiea** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:12 am

haha, got the russian

But I'm not looking for fuzz

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:14 pm

thicker strings have more sustain [bass guitars have sustain literally for days]
floyds rob tone and sustain, they're also a pain to set up properly
i would suggest you buy an ibanez rg and play that instead of testing the waters on a guitar body
set necks are also terribly hard to make, and they're not ideal for maintenance, also if the neck snaps due to an error in craftsmanship the guitar is done for.
best of luck in whatever path you pursue, we're just giving our advice

mcconnachiea · Post by **mcconnachiea** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:19 pm

just thinking what sort of floyd robs the least sustain: fastloader or original

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:20 pm

both! it would be too hard to truely judge that unless you put them back to back on THE SAME guitar.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Tue May 05, 2009 1:35 am

Put a big brass block on the Floyd. Or, if you're feeling extravagant, a titanium one. You could probably even make this yourself too.

blacktaxi · Post by **blacktaxi** » Tue May 05, 2009 6:39 am

Haze wrote:thicker strings have more sustain [bass guitars have sustain literally for days]

I think it is because bass guitars have much more longer scale.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Tue May 05, 2009 7:48 am

blacktaxi wrote:
Haze wrote:thicker strings have more sustain [bass guitars have sustain literally for days]
I think it is because bass guitars have much more longer scale.

Both dudes.

blacktaxi · Post by **blacktaxi** » Tue May 05, 2009 9:20 am

Black Cat Bone wrote:
blacktaxi wrote:
Haze wrote:thicker strings have more sustain [bass guitars have sustain literally for days]
I think it is because bass guitars have much more longer scale.
Both dudes.

See, there are different opinions on how string gauge affects sustain, and I'd really like to read a scientifical report on this topic.