even jazz players use mustangs

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:24 pm

John Mclaughlin used for all his early work, including miles davis. this surprised me a little.
http://rp.couturier.free.fr/jml1_flash.htm#

blacktaxi · Post by **blacktaxi** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:13 pm

you should remove "even" from the topic title for it to be fair

i always thought that jazz players didn't care that much about the sound, or "the tone". to me it's the music what is main for them, so it's not a big surprise that somebody played jazz on a 'stang - an overall nice guitar.

m0n0mania · Post by **m0n0mania** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:02 am

Jazz players dont care about tone????
How did you arrive at that?

Mages · Post by **Mages** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:00 am

yea, I thought jazz players liked that neck humbucker with the tone rolled off stuff

m0n0mania · Post by **m0n0mania** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 am

I just thought it an odd comment that jazzers "don't care about sound"

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:10 am

The neck single coil of a Fender with the tone backed off is perfectly adequate for jazz. It's more about the amp, I feel.
Leo knew what was up: the Broadcaster/Nocaster (resistor), '52-'67 teles (capacitor), Jazzmasters and Jaguars (the rhythm circuit/funny pots and cap) all had "jazz settings" integrated into the wiring for an alternate neck pickup sound.

I've also always felt that the Mustang and Jag/Jazzy trems are very jazz-like in nature.

Jazz players clearly care about their sound, as a good jazz tone is deceptively hard to achieve.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:35 am

To be fair, the neck single on most Fenders is one of the companies crowning points.

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:15 pm

i've been playing this morning and have noticed that i tend to use neck most of the time. especially on my mustang, the neck sound so sweet and full, yet just enough bite for lead work. i like neck and bridge in phase a lot too.

conclusion: fuck all my other guitars, mustang is my top dog.

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:26 pm

i hardly ever use neck pickups, just not my thing.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:33 pm

Progrockabuse wrote:conclusion: fuck all my other guitars, mustang is my top dog.

Im really pleased you like it Rob. I have fads with stuff like yourself but i always gravitate back to the Toronado.

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:35 pm

Fran wrote:
Progrockabuse wrote:conclusion: fuck all my other guitars, mustang is my top dog.
Im really pleased you like it Rob. I have fads with stuff like yourself but i always gravitate back to the Toronado.

it's getting to the stage where i'd like to have another mustang/duo-sonic as a backup. maybe trade my strat or goldtop for one.

Post by **Mike** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:46 pm

stewart wrote:i hardly ever use neck pickups, just not my thing.

I'm similar to this, I live on the bridge pickup for any rock or spanky cleans but I do use both and neck stuff for breakup stuff and leads and that these days. I'm growing.

For crystal clean Hendrixy augmented chord playing, it's got to be the neck.

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:54 pm

i think it's the band setup i'm in at the moment, because there's usually a lot of tom action on the drums and i only really play rhythm, if i switch to the neck pickup it just sounds a bit muddy and gets lost. i did use the coronado neck pickup for a spot of recording the other day, but i wouldn't use it onstage. maybe i'm doing it wrong.

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:57 pm

i must admit, when i've played live in the past, i used the strat bridge pickup a lot more. it cuts through better that it's neck pickup. this was in a band that too had a lot of tom work.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:02 pm

The most important guitar lesson (alright, rule of thumb) that I've learned - alarmingly late in the day, in this case, is that the rhythm (neck) and lead (bridge) pickups are misnamed (at least on Gibsons), and to err on the side of bridge for chords and neck for leads. Plus fuzzes love neck pickups, and I love fuzzes.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:51 pm

I use the neck pickup almost exclusively. Any time I switch to the bridge, it always sounds thin on account of it being treblier.

Different story for metal, obviously.

Post by **Mike** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:19 pm

benecol wrote:The most important guitar lesson (alright, rule of thumb) that I've learned - alarmingly late in the day, in this case, is that the rhythm (neck) and lead (bridge) pickups are misnamed (at least on Gibsons), and to err on the side of bridge for chords and neck for leads. Plus fuzzes love neck pickups, and I love fuzzes.

Pretty much dead on. Playing crunchy rhythm on a neck pickup sounds gash.

Octave Fuzzes love the neck pickup, although the Fender Blender is so crazy it will Octave on the bridge pickup.

On open strings.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:55 pm

Im in mikes camp here. I like clean definition even with full distortion (if thats achievable), dare i say like the Metallica school of playing. I hardly ever use the neck pickup, but i do love the Strat neck position. Its one of the greatest (if not the greatest) natural guitar sounds ever imo.

m0n0mania · Post by **m0n0mania** » Sat May 09, 2009 9:17 pm

Bill Frisell plays Jaguars sometimes

cobascis · Post by **cobascis** » Sat May 09, 2009 11:01 pm

m0n0mania wrote:Bill Frisell plays Jaguars sometimes

So did Pass, but this thread ees about STANGS.