Mustangs/Jagstangs that don't have vintage sized frets?

smora · Post by **smora** » Tue May 19, 2009 7:54 pm

Are there any iterations of these guitars that have something bigger than the small vintage-sized frets? I think the original Jagstangs had jumbo frets and the reissues have vintage frets? Is that right? What about the Mustang? I'm sure all the US originals have the smaller frets, but are there any version of the reissues that have medium-jumbo or jumbo frets?

luke · Post by **luke** » Tue May 19, 2009 7:58 pm

I'm pretty sure all the Japanese reissue Mustangs and Jag-Stangs have the same frets, the smaller vintage-sized ones. The only necks that I believe are different are the Jaguar HHs and the Classic Player Jags. Mustangs and Jag-Stangs are all the same.

Plus the Jag-Stang was never really "reissued" as such, they just made a second run. "Original" and "Reissue" are terms normally only used by eBay sellers trying to make the big bucks on their "Original" Jag-Stangs. Aside from the differences in the MIJ and CIJ, and the sticker/decal in the "Designed by Kurt Cobain" on the headstock, they're identical.

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Tue May 19, 2009 8:07 pm

Jag-Stangs always came with vintage sized frets, the only difference between the "originals" and "re-issues" is the thing that says "designed by Kurt Cobain" on the back of the headstock (removable sticker on "originals," decal on "re-issue")

They essentially never reissued the Jag-Stang. It was still being made in Japan after they stopped importing them to the US in '99, before the "reissue" came out production had only stopped for like, a few months.

mcconnachiea · Post by **mcconnachiea** » Tue May 19, 2009 9:55 pm

paul_ wrote:Jag-Stangs always came with vintage sized frets, the only difference between the "originals" and "re-issues" is the thing that says "designed by Kurt Cobain" on the back of the headstock (removable sticker on "originals," decal on "re-issue")

They essentially never reissued the Jag-Stang. It was still being made in Japan after they stopped importing them to the US in '99, before the "reissue" came out production had only stopped for like, a few months.

No, my jagstang has jumbo frets

1998

purplehaze19x · Post by **purplehaze19x** » Tue May 19, 2009 10:01 pm

LOL. not from the factory.

luke · Post by **luke** » Tue May 19, 2009 10:02 pm

mcconnachiea wrote:
paul_ wrote:Jag-Stangs always came with vintage sized frets, the only difference between the "originals" and "re-issues" is the thing that says "designed by Kurt Cobain" on the back of the headstock (removable sticker on "originals," decal on "re-issue")

They essentially never reissued the Jag-Stang. It was still being made in Japan after they stopped importing them to the US in '99, before the "reissue" came out production had only stopped for like, a few months.
No, my jagstang has jumbo frets

1998

I question your ability to discern jumbo frets from vintage frets. They're probably just worn down from TOO MANY POWERCHORDSSS.

mcconnachiea · Post by **mcconnachiea** » Tue May 19, 2009 10:30 pm

purplehaze19x wrote:LOL. not from the factory.

I've always seen jumbo frets in spec sheeps, publicity things and stuff.

Plus I can tell that the size is WAY different. I higly doublt that my stang has been refretted

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Tue May 19, 2009 11:29 pm

mcconnachiea wrote:
purplehaze19x wrote:LOL. not from the factory.
I've always seen jumbo frets in spec sheeps, publicity things and stuff.

Plus I can tell that the size is WAY different. I higly doublt that my stang has been refretted

Sounds like you got Kurdtz original, get it valued man!

purplehaze19x · Post by **purplehaze19x** » Tue May 19, 2009 11:53 pm

mcconnachiea wrote:
purplehaze19x wrote:LOL. not from the factory.
I've always seen jumbo frets in spec sheeps, publicity things and stuff.

Plus I can tell that the size is WAY different. I higly doublt that my stang has been refretted

Huh? I have 2 Jagstangs and both have the vintage fret wire. 1 is an original run and was used when i bought it,
but the other one i bought brand new in 2003, so i know it came stock with small vintage frets.

purplehaze19x · Post by **purplehaze19x** » Tue May 19, 2009 11:54 pm

Fran wrote:
mcconnachiea wrote:
purplehaze19x wrote:LOL. not from the factory.
I've always seen jumbo frets in spec sheeps, publicity things and stuff.

Plus I can tell that the size is WAY different. I higly doublt that my stang has been refretted
Sounds like you got Kurdtz original, get it valued man!

Teh Kurdtz had Jumbos on his JS? I thought he hated them and preferd the small ones.

Shaguar · Post by **Shaguar** » Wed May 20, 2009 12:03 am

Kurtsequipment.com wrote:There were occasional Fender Stratocasters (Japanese preferred, because of availability and smaller frets (57)).

Kurdtz never liked big frets.

bassintom · Post by **bassintom** » Wed May 20, 2009 12:18 am

mcconnachiea wrote:
paul_ wrote:Jag-Stangs always came with vintage sized frets, the only difference between the "originals" and "re-issues" is the thing that says "designed by Kurt Cobain" on the back of the headstock (removable sticker on "originals," decal on "re-issue")

They essentially never reissued the Jag-Stang. It was still being made in Japan after they stopped importing them to the US in '99, before the "reissue" came out production had only stopped for like, a few months.
No, my jagstang has jumbo frets

1998

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Reece · Post by **Reece** » Wed May 20, 2009 12:25 am

Shaguar wrote:
Kurtsequipment.com wrote:There were occasional Fender Stratocasters (Japanese preferred, because of availability and smaller frets (57)).
Kurdtz never liked big frets.

kurts equpment even states it clear as day.

The resulting instrument has an alder body, plus a 24-inch scale maple neck with a rosewood fretboard and vintage-style fretwire

purplehaze19x · Post by **purplehaze19x** » Wed May 20, 2009 12:27 am

Thats what i thought.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Wed May 20, 2009 12:55 am

No. Youse guys suck. Me and Kurdtz discussed this way back. Jumbo wires FTW.

smora · Post by **smora** » Wed May 20, 2009 4:28 am

Malik wrote:Plus the Jag-Stang was never really "reissued" as such, they just made a second run. "Original" and "Reissue" are terms normally only used by eBay sellers trying to make the big bucks on their "Original" Jag-Stangs. Aside from the differences in the MIJ and CIJ, and the sticker/decal in the "Designed by Kurt Cobain" on the headstock, they're identical.

The second run of Jag-Stangs are also made of alder opposed to basswood, right? That's according to wiki anyway.

Ok, so all Mustangs and Jag-Stangs use vintage-sized frets, got that covered. Now, what about the neck widths at the nut? What percentage of the Japanese Mustangs are A width? What about the Jag-Stangs? Are those all A or B width? Also, how do the neck contours differ between Mustangs and Jag-Stangs? I'd imagine they're the same, but what do you guys say?

Thanks for the help guys!

Thom · Post by **Thom** » Wed May 20, 2009 8:29 am

The necks are all the same - Jap Mustangs and Jag-Stangs are all B width with the same profile.