The original shortscale guitars; Mustangs, Duo-Sonics, Musicmasters, Jaguars, Broncos, Jag-stang, Jagmaster, Super-Sonic, Cyclone, and Toronados.
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Fran
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by Fran » Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:09 pm
Gavin wrote: I have always hated buzzstops. They look shit and there's no need.
There is a need depending on how you use the Jaguar.
If you fit high output pickups (or use high gain) the third harmonics behind the bridge become more audible, to the point that they interfere with the guitars sound like delayed notes. The only way to stop it without changing the bridge or muting the strings behind the bridge with duct tape is to break the angle. In effect shortening the string length behind the bridge.
Buzzstop works a treat.
I found this out when i fitted a DiMarzio humbucker in the Burgundy Mist model.
Also, good point made by Jon about drop tuning. If the string tension is loose say using C standard tuning you have a lot of problems with string jumping. The angle is not sharp enough over the bridge to the trem.
But all this brings us back full circle of course...
SHOULD'NT BE DOING ALL THAT! ITS NOT MEANT FOR THAT.......
othomas2
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by othomas2 » Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:31 pm
Fran wins at the internet...
I don't think you've ever said anything I've not agreed on... an all round level-headed guy !
Fran
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by Fran » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:05 pm
heh, more like Fran spent too many years trying to sound like Kurk Hammetz on a Jaguar
othomas2
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by othomas2 » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:13 pm
I kept reverting back to this during my quest...
Still think it's a cool get-up !!
Noirie.
YOUTH
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by Noirie. » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:14 pm
That one now belongs to Reece, correct?
theshadowofseattle wrote: less being WOKE
more being STOKED
Reece
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by Reece » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:16 pm
that black guard is LONG GONE.
it needs a buzz stop actually, i'm rocking CGCGGD and the low C pops out all the time.
Fran
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by Fran » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:31 pm
These Jag threads always make me feel regretful. Im pleased reece has it but ya' know...
Reece
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by Reece » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:33 pm
don't you have another jag?
Jelloman
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by Jelloman » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:40 pm
Reece wrote: that black guard is LONG GONE.
it needs a buzz stop actually, i'm rocking CGCGGD and the low C pops out all the time.
What color guard do ya have on it now?
I love Fender Jaguars for realz
Reece
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by Reece » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:44 pm
tort.
Fran
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by Fran » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:45 pm
Reece wrote: don't you have another jag?
Aye, i've still got the green 64 but i would'nt mod it.
Could do with a battered CIJ to fit in some EMGz...
Noirie.
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by Noirie. » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:47 pm
Still got the jazzmaster Fran?
theshadowofseattle wrote: less being WOKE
more being STOKED
Doog
mid-century modem
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by Doog » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:21 pm
The Buzzstop makes a difference for me on my Jazzy; maybe not 40 quids worth of difference, but it helps the guitar along in how I want it to feel.
Fran
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by Fran » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:09 am
Noirie. wrote: Still got the jazzmaster Fran?
No. Only that Soapbar Offset these days.
aphasiac
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by aphasiac » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:40 am
othomas2 wrote:
I really want to make schweet schweet love to your entire rig..
Dice
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by Dice » Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:30 pm
BobArsecake wrote: dots wrote: Gavin wrote: I have always hated buzzstops. They look shit and there's no need.
i wouldn't say i hate them per se, but i agree the need is pretty dubious as far as i'm concerned. i don't have problems with buzz or sustain.
+1, just seem pointless to me, unless you're tuning way down p'raps.
Or... if you're running 11's and aren't a fan of strings popping out of saddle slots.
The buzzstop does a great job of keeping your strings in place with "lighter" gauge strings. Not everyone wants to run flatwound 13's on their Jag...
dots
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by dots » Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:39 pm
<---- rocks 11's with nary a popped out string.
Dice
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by Dice » Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:54 pm
dots wrote: <---- rocks 11's with nary a popped out string.
My '65 - which was completely gone though and set up by a luthier - would lose them all the time before the buzzstop. Not all the way off of the saddle, but it would jump slots particularly on the low E. I haven't had any problems since the Buzzstop, and haven't noticed any negatives.
George
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by George » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:18 pm
Fran wrote: Reece wrote: don't you have another jag?
Aye, i've still got the green 64 but i would'nt mod it.
Could do with a battered CIJ to fit in some EMGz...
Fran are you able to build bodies and stuff?
hwestman
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by hwestman » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:35 pm
I usually hate the look of mint but I cannot deny that this is one pretty guitar...
Love what you did with the cover for the bridge pickup.... very neat!