planning out my next project... Need help

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:02 am

Is anyone out there familiar with Scott Lucas of Local H's Rig. He has a P-Bass pickup installed in his guitar vertically under the first few strings connected to a separate input jack on the guitar so he can essentially mimick a bassline while he is playing. I want to do something similar but not necessarily exactly identical.

So I'm collecting ideas. Say we're working with a strat type guitar with stereo inputs. One wired normally, the other preferably going to the bass pickup (or some pickup) with some sort of high end bleed and it's own volume pot. That will run to a bass amp, and the standard guitar wiring would go to a guitar amp of course. How would you wire it? What pickup would you use for the "bass" and how would you orient it on the body. I'd half it tuned normally or a half step down.

This is a little bit of a ways off, although I do have the neck coming in the mail. So you have plenty of time to either help me perfect my plans or try to talk me out of it.

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:55 am

If you don't, I will.

Strat jack is for the Bridge and Neck pickups
Jack on the scratch plate is for the bass [middle pickup] I originally thought of the Mustang bass/Electric XII pickups and just not hookup the bottom coil for asthetics
Concentric Vol/Tone knobs, one set for guitar one for bass or however you want to wire it.
2 way toggle for the bass pu

I think its pretty sweet

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:59 am

what if you just had a toggle switch that changed from a normal pup to a bass pup and a different circut to sound more "bassy"

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:09 am

or you could butcher it like this guy has done

SP jack runs to a boss octave pedal into a bass amp

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:29 am

Haze wrote:If you don't, I will.

Strat jack is for the Bridge and Neck pickups
Jack on the scratch plate is for the bass [middle pickup] I originally thought of the Mustang bass/Electric XII pickups and just not hookup the bottom coil for asthetics
Concentric Vol/Tone knobs, one set for guitar one for bass or however you want to wire it.
2 way toggle for the bass pu

I think its pretty sweet

I think I'm sold.

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:31 am

I'm serious, do it before i do

in other words, please do it so i don't have to

I had the idea in my head as soon as you mentioned it actually. I love the look of it aswell.
The only thing i see going wrong is:
Electric XII pickups being a bitch to come by at a "fair" price. Mustang bass pu's will suffice but they only have 2 poles/coil

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:37 am

Haze wrote:I'm serious, do it before i do
in other words, please do it so i don't have to

I had the idea in my head as soon as you mentioned it actually. I love the look of it aswell.
The only thing i see going wrong is:
Electric XII pickups being a bitch to come by at a "fair" price. Mustang bass pu's will suffice but they only have 2 poles/coil

I really only want the e and a strings to be picked up by the "bass" anyway. So the mustang bass pups may work just fine.
I'll be honest now that I can see it in my head... The sooner I track down a viable bass pup, the sooner I'll get started. The search begins.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:00 am

So it looks like I can get a set of electric xii pups for 100 or mustang bass pups for 50. I don't mind spending the extra money if it's going to make a difference in the end. Can anyone think what the positives or negative might be to one over the other? I'm thinking based sole on string spacing issues that the electric xii pups may be the way to go. But will they be as low end friendly as the mustang bass pups?

I'm way out of my area of knowledge here.

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:13 am

I honestly thing that after you throw it down an octave with a pedal it won't make THAT much of a difference, i would go with the correct spacing over a "Bass" pickup

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:00 pm

need a strat body/neck for this?

Shaguar · Post by **Shaguar** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:18 pm

Scott Lucas only uses a bass pickup for a "bass like" sound. His bass sounds comes from the bass pickup going from the second jack in his guitar into an octave pedal. You can see his pedalboard in the As Good As Dead CD jewel case.

I was thinking of modding my stratocopy to the same kind of thing, so I went and looked for Scott Lucas photos on googole and I found these:

You can see in that pic that he already had a P-Bass split pup in straight and then repositioned it at an angle.

LOCAL H ROCKS!

Gavin · Post by **Gavin** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:23 pm

Didn't Doog already do this, or was gonna at least?

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:35 pm

hotrodperlmutter wrote:need a strat body/neck for this?

Ive got a neck coming. and I've my eye on a warmoth body for it.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:37 pm

Shaguar wrote:Scott Lucas only uses a bass pickup for a "bass like" sound. His bass sounds comes from the bass pickup going from the second jack in his guitar into an octave pedal. You can see his pedalboard in the As Good As Dead CD jewel case.

I was thinking of modding my stratocopy to the same kind of thing, so I went and looked for Scott Lucas photos on googole and I found these:

You can see in that pic that he already had a P-Bass split pup in straight and then repositioned it at an angle.

LOCAL H ROCKS!

That's my inspiration, but I want a much cleaner look. Something similar to what haze put up.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:53 pm

Custom 1/4 pound Electric XII pickup (one 3 pole coil) - $60
Explaining to my wife that I'm starting a new project and will probably be spending about $300-400 on it -

building yet another freak of nature guitar - priceless

bassintom · Post by **bassintom** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:19 pm

I have a P-bass pup set(unknown cheapos) new.I can let you have them cheap.If you're interested PM me.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:22 pm

bassintom wrote:I have a P-bass pup set(unknown cheapos) new.I can let you have them cheap.If you're interested PM me.

already have the electric XII pup ordered. but thanks!

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:53 pm

If you actually follow my idea on this I'll be fucking giddy as geddy lee.
Super cool that you found an ele xii pickup on the cheap aswell. If I had any sort of cash flow I would totally build it's brother. I might have to put this on my list...
Cheap gfs white tele body, cheap paddle headstock, cheap tele bridge... Tort strat pg...

gfs shopping cart

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:57 pm

Haze wrote:If you actually follow my idea on this I'll be fucking giddy as geddy lee.
Super cool that you found an ele xii pickup on the cheap aswell. If I had any sort of cash flow I would totally build it's brother. I might have to put this on my list...
Cheap gfs white tele body, cheap paddle headstock, cheap tele bridge... Tort strat pg... gfs shopping cart

Actually I didn't find it... I'm having it made custom for this project! apparently otherwise it's impossible to get the damn things under like $150.

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:16 pm

thats pretty sweet, is it an online company you ran across or something local?