Bugera Amp in Sounds Great Shocker! (Video Demo)

Post by **Mike** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:14 pm

Check out thegearpage.net - lots of people over there playing these things and happy with the V22 and V55.

Was it a Deluxe Reverb you played? They're lovely. I like this amp because it can do the Fender clean thing pretty well and it doesn't cost the earth, that's what I wanted in it, and it delivers.

nomorebridge · Post by **nomorebridge** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:06 pm

For the UK these amps are a treat. You can't get a big fendery clean style amp for a decent price, the only thing that is cheap and uses 6L6 bottles I have ever found new here is some Sound City thing and it doesn't look much. Things like HRD's are just a rip off at current prices

One of the things I majorly like about these amps that I saw on TGP is that they have all the bias twiddlers on the outside of the chassis... Why don't fender do this anymore - It's a major selling point for me. I want to be able to retube my amp wihout getting fried, why do they force people to venture into the 'exciting' part of the amp who like myself don't really know/can't do that safely.

Rayjaysonic · Post by **Rayjaysonic** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:13 pm

No it was the Fender Hot Rod DeLuxe 112, god it sounded good, a bargain but sadly I can't justify spending Â£500 + at the moment. Thanks for the tip I will check thegearpage.net, but I think I am kind of there with my decision. I think the Tiny Terror would be fun but it's not what I am after tone wise. Rich harmonic cleans and plenty of knobs to fiddle with! That's where it's at

Rayjaysonic · Post by **Rayjaysonic** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:44 pm

Yep that's a great design. E-mailed the company because there Bias sheet didn't include the V55HD and they said they would get it revised ASAP!
We will see.

Post by **Mike** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:00 pm

Rayjaysonic wrote:No it was the Fender Hot Rod DeLuxe 112, god it sounded good, a bargain but sadly I can't justify spending Â£500 + at the moment. Thanks for the tip I will check thegearpage.net, but I think I am kind of there with my decision. I think the Tiny Terror would be fun but it's not what I am after tone wise. Rich harmonic cleans and plenty of knobs to fiddle with! That's where it's at

You'll definitely be happy if you're after cleans from this thing. I'm sure the gain channel can be massaged into sounding good but it will take effort, not so the cleans which jump off the strings. Hot Rod Deluxes are extremely overpriced for what they are. If they were Â£300 it might be worth going for one, but at Â£549 they are a joke.

Rayjaysonic · Post by **Rayjaysonic** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:19 pm

Mike wrote: Hot Rod Deluxes are extremely overpriced for what they are. If they were Â£300 it might be worth going for one, but at Â£549 they are a joke.

Probably very true, there's a lot of better stuff for that kind of money but have you seen one in Surf Green?????? Yum!

Might find this link rather cool if you have not seen it already. The tone king at work!! Bugera V55 Vs Fender Hot Rod Duluxe.

Sloan · Post by **Sloan** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:26 am

HRD's aren't even worth the current USED prices. fuck those ripoff pieces of shit.

Rayjaysonic · Post by **Rayjaysonic** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:04 pm

Well, it's done. I have odered the V55HD, arrives Monday so we will see how it sounds. To be honest I can't wait. Decided for the money, you just can't go wrong. If it sounds half as good as I hope, it's still bloody good value for money. I think my money might have been sfer with a TT but I could see myself selling it in 6 months for something with more tone variety. Fingures crossed!

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:50 pm

i think i paid Â£300 for my hot rod deluxe and that included having it delivered to my door. i like it, but no way would i pay more than that for one. i saw a silverface bassman with a 2x15 cab in my area recently going for less than a full priced HRD.

Post by **Mike** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:00 pm

Â£300 is about right I would say.

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:01 pm

i'll readily admit that the drive channels are pretty average too, i never use them.

Post by **Mike** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:04 pm

Ditto the Bugera to be honest, it sounds nice enough but it's a bit fuzzy, I'm going to see what a 12DW7 does to it when I have a second. I'm crazy busy these days.

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:12 pm

it sounds ok on the video, but i'd be interested to see what the differences are with changed tubes.

Rayjaysonic · Post by **Rayjaysonic** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:14 pm

This is all sounding good, cleans are what I'm after. How is it with a OD or Distortion pedal in front???

Post by **Mike** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:14 pm

It can definitely be dialed to sound pretty damn good, it's just if you have enough trebs dialed in to make the clean channel spank then it can be a bit fizzly.

A 12DW7 is a cool tube, it's half 12AX7 (high gain) and half 12AU7 (low gain), in some amps this means it can tame gain channels while leaving the clean alone, thus you can turn the gain up on the Gain channel to thicken it out at lower saturation levels.

Post by **Mike** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:14 pm

Rayjaysonic wrote:
Mike wrote:Ditto the Bugera to be honest, it sounds nice enough but it's a bit fuzzy, I'm going to see what a 12DW7 does to it when I have a second. I'm crazy busy these days.
This is all sounding good, cleans are what I'm after. How is it with a OD, Distortion pedal in front???

Lovely! I actually do this in the end of the video in this thread, and all the gain sounds in my '66 Jaguar are pedals I have built.

Rayjaysonic · Post by **Rayjaysonic** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:17 pm

I will have to check it out again later when I have more time. Cool stuff. Not often I wish away the weekend but can't wait for Monday and the delivery truck.....but then it's a day with an amp sat staring at me from the corner of the office!!!!!

Mungodora · Post by **Mungodora** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:48 pm

Looks like it would be good to use just as a clean amp, if you have the luxury of having a second amp for the crunch/overdrive sounds.

Rayjaysonic · Post by **Rayjaysonic** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:56 pm

Well, it arrived today, I have played it for an hour and I have to say I am pleased as punch with the Bugera V55HD. Plugged it into my home made 2X12 with Jensen CR12's. The cleans are as Mike suggests, very nice indeed, silky with a touch of sparkle. I kind of like the fuzzy quality of the lead channel too! Quite a bluesy kind of feel. The thing that has knocked me out the most is the lack of background noise from this amp, even with my cheep nasty patch cables. I think it's an absolute bargain for the price. Happy Happy Joy Joy.

Post by **Mike** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:21 pm

Good stuff, glad you're happy with it.