Jimi <3 Gibson?

Post by **Mike** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:55 pm

Bent. You are getting schooled.

Just give it up, you're completely wrong.

bent · Post by **bent** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:01 pm

Mike wrote:Bent. You are getting schooled.

Just give it up, you're completely wrong.

I highly doubt Groundskeeper Willie is educating me whatsoever.

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:12 pm

oh good one, you fucking prick.

i'll tell you something for free, i could take a wander along to my mate's house right now and take my pick from any one of about 60 guitars of various types dating from, say, the 1920s to now. as far as electrics go that includes, for instance, a 50s les paul goldtop, or maybe an early 60s les paul if you're feeling fruity, a 50s gretsch perhaps, a 1960 epiphone casino, and yes, a 60s ES-335, and for what it is the coronado holds its own with any of them. it doesn't sound like a 335 because it clearly isn't one, and is in no way similar apart from its shape in a fairly vague sense.

don't start talking shit to me about guitars, cos i'll wager i've played more good ones than you've had hot dinners, sunshine.

Post by **Mike** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:14 pm

As soon as he dropped that lame attempt at baiting I realised he was a waste of time.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:23 pm

What a cock. You shouldn't have even given him your dicks to sniff. It was obvious early on that he wanted to cling onto his bad information from the start.

bent · Post by **bent** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:37 pm

yet another person who thinks Fender's Coranado is a 335 rip off

http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... 9&start=15

Look at all you ladies getting in a tizzy, seriously calm down.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:40 pm

bent wrote:yet another person who thinks Fender's Coranado is a 335 rip off

http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... 9&start=15

Look at all you ladies getting in a tizzy, seriously calm down.

It's because it's true. It doesn't matter if a book or some jizzhound in a series of Youtube wankoffs featuring almost exclusively Stratocasters and Telecasters tell you otherwise, you only need to look at pictures of the Hagstrom Guitar and the Coronado to go "oh yeah, there's something in it".

bent · Post by **bent** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:10 pm

Okay, we are getting a bit too emotional about this this. Lets agree to disagree before one of you have an aneurysm

Post by **Mike** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:12 pm

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:28 pm

bent wrote:yet another person who thinks Fender's Coranado is a 335 rip off

http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... 9&start=15

Look at all you ladies getting in a tizzy, seriously calm down.

i'm accquainted with that thread and nowhere in it does it say it's a 335 rip off. do you even know what a 335 is? cos it's not coming across like you do.

jcyphe · Post by **jcyphe** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:33 pm

This board is in such a Fender headlock.

Post by **Mike** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:33 pm

jcyphe wrote:This board is in such a Fender headlock.

Have you even read his responses?

jcyphe · Post by **jcyphe** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:04 pm

Mike wrote:
jcyphe wrote:This board is in such a Fender headlock.
Have you even read his responses?

Yes. My reply was not directed at what his comments were.

the isaac eaton · Post by **the isaac eaton** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:50 pm

jcyphe wrote:This board is in such a Fender headlock.

Truth statement rings true.

But this guy is just being annoying.

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:19 pm

he's doing a spot of trolling in that offset thread now like a proper chonst.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:45 pm

I would set you on fire just to watch you try and argue the flames out.

Look at the Hagstrom. Look at it. Why don't you stop those constantly rolling eyes for ten seconds and take a good long look at the Hagstrom.
Okay, now do the same to the Coronado. What do you see? What do you see?

That's right, you see your mistake. Go on, be a big boy and tell the teacher what you've done wrong.

Now I will accept either of the three following responses and nothing else:

A) Admission of your mistake.
B) Some sort of proof confirming your legally blind status.
C) (My personal preference) Nothing at all, because you have left.

bent · Post by **bent** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:27 pm

Gibson ES-335 first released in 1958
HagstrÃ¶m Viking first released in 1965
Fender Coronado first released in 1966

The Coronado series was announced in November 1965 in the Fender newsletter Fender Facts.

... this was in November 1965. Probably started development in late 1964 when Roger Rossmeisl was hired on at Fender after leaving Rickenbacker.

Quote from here: http://www.vintageguitars.org.uk/fendercoronado.php

So, Stewart, how did they copy the HagstrÃ¶m Viking when the Fender Coronado was first announced in 1965? The Gibson 335 was first released in 1958! Did Roger Rossmeisl get use of Doc Brown's Deloreon?

BoringPostcards · Post by **BoringPostcards** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:05 pm

wow. what's up bent? Relax. This thread is turning into a big mess of pointless arguments.
Who cares where Fender got their inspiration for the Coronado from?? You may have a point with the release dates, but that doesn't change the fact that the Viking II and the Coronado look far more similar than the es-335/Coronado.
The Coronado is a good guitar. They sound really good for certain types of music. Those guys from that vid you posted don't know shit. I watched their vids many times.
They tried to claim that the Mustang was a CBS invention. They said Swingers were made from Electric XIIs and they compared musicmasters and duosonics to toys. Seriously.

also: Have you actually played a HagstrÃ¶m?? Vintage or otherwise?? They are sick fucking guitars. Especially the Viking.
Try telling Frank Zappa that HagstrÃ¶m Vikings are crapola. No wait, he's dead. Go out and play one.

Gavin · Post by **Gavin** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:19 pm

bent wrote:Gibson ES-335 first released in 1958
HagstrÃ¶m Viking first released in 1965
Fender Coronado first released in 1966

The Coronado series was announced in November 1965 in the Fender newsletter Fender Facts.
... this was in November 1965. Probably started development in late 1964 when Roger Rossmeisl was hired on at Fender after leaving Rickenbacker.

Quote from here: http://www.vintageguitars.org.uk/fendercoronado.php

So, Stewart, how did they copy the HagstrÃ¶m Viking when the Fender Coronado was first announced in 1965? The Gibson 335 was first released in 1958! Did Roger Rossmeisl get use of Doc Brown's Deloreon?

Eh... Where exactly would he need to have used the time machine? Viking released in 1965 and then in late 1965 Fender announces they're gonna produce a ripoff. The timeline works fine.

bent · Post by **bent** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:21 pm

Skiptracer1981 wrote:wow. what's up bent? Relax. This thread is turning into a big mess of pointless arguments.
Who cares where Fender got their inspiration for the Coronado from?? You may have a point with the release dates, but that doesn't change the fact that the Viking II and the Coronado look far more similar than the es-335/Coronado.
The Coronado is a good guitar. They sound really good for certain types of music. Those guys from that vid you posted don't know shit. I watched their vids many times.
They tried to claim that the Mustang was a CBS invention. They said Swingers were made from Electric XIIs and they compared musicmasters and duosonics to toys. Seriously.

also: Have you actually played a HagstrÃ¶m?? Vintage or otherwise?? They are sick fucking guitars. Especially the Viking.
Try telling Frank Zappa that HagstrÃ¶m Vikings are crapola. No wait, he's dead. Go out and play one.

I like HagstrÃ¶m's fine.

I was merely making the point that as much as Gibsons "barrow" from Fender, Fender barrows just as much right back. I used the Fender Coranado as an example of this. Stewart said I was wrong, and said that the Coranado was not inspired by the 335 but by the HagstrÃ¶m Viking. I said this was incorrect and now with the dates I have provided I have proven as much.

I am very calm and have suggested several times that Mike and Stewart chill out and all they've done is get nasty. Skiptracer1981, just read the whole thread mate.