Small Amps that melt your face

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:09 pm

I need one.
The Marshall is struggling lately, its cranked to the max and the drummer is still drowning it out in parts of songs. Its 40w valve, but i need something the same size like a 1x15 combi that will fit in a small car boot.
I remember Seymour Duncan made a 100w valve combi that was hideously loud but they seem rare to get hold of.

Anyone got any recommendations?

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:51 pm

get one of those hughes and kettner warp 7 amps.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:58 pm

Are'nt they 2x12? Wont fit in the car boot, it has to be 1x12 or 1x15.

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:10 pm

you could have my blue deluxe, recover it in leather and studs.

Post by **Doog** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:23 pm

As a last ditch attempt, you could try some JJ E34Ls in it? They give you a bit more headroom as they run at a slightly higher voltage, worked for me. You do need to tweak the bias a bit though. I've played with some PROPER loud drummers (Joey from Weevil Knievel has a loud as fuck kit and is a hard hitter) without any volume problems using 50w worth of valves.

You could upgrade the speaker to something that is well-known for being efficient?

I take it you've got that bitch at more-or-less ear-level?

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:27 pm

Doog wrote:
Have you got that bitch at more-or-less ear-level?

+1

it may be a bit un-rock, but having it up higher helps a lot. wanna borrow my amp stand? not gigging at the mo.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:32 pm

It was at head height last night, the stage was so small i played on the floor in front. I always do elevate it as its pretty much useless on the floor.
That is an interesting solution Doog, never thought of that. A full valve change and bias tweak, hmm, out of my depth there. I suppose that will knock me back Â£100.

laterallateral · Post by **laterallateral** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:33 pm

Yeah, I'm a bit dismayed at that this is an issue at all...
I've never had a problem crushing a drummer with my 50W YBA-1 with ancient EL34s in it.
My bandmate's Peavey Classic 50 can also drown out our kit fairly easily.
Maybe it's because we have a quiet kit?

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:40 pm

Moar purple amps and a trailer?

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(clearly, I've just chosen this as the thread to shoehorn this clip into since I knew Fran would like it...)

Peavey Delta Blues is a 15" combo that's always caught my eye, but is only 30 watt.

Post by **Doog** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:54 pm

Fran wrote:It was at head height last night, the stage was so small i played on the floor in front. I always do elevate it as its pretty much useless on the floor.
That is an interesting solution Doog, never thought of that. A full valve change and bias tweak, hmm, out of my depth there. I suppose that will knock me back Â£100.

It's a Marshall DSL401 combo yeah? Becaaaaause, the bias tweak on the TSL/DSLs is a piece of piss, mate- seriously. All you need is a multimeter and a small screwdriver.

chisa · Post by **chisa** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:04 pm

try a speaker with more volume

Gavin · Post by **Gavin** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:12 pm

Tell your drummer to quit being a spazz.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:19 pm

Doog wrote:
Fran wrote:It was at head height last night, the stage was so small i played on the floor in front. I always do elevate it as its pretty much useless on the floor.
That is an interesting solution Doog, never thought of that. A full valve change and bias tweak, hmm, out of my depth there. I suppose that will knock me back Â£100.
It's a Marshall DSL401 combo yeah? Becaaaaause, the bias tweak on the TSL/DSLs is a piece of piss, mate- seriously. All you need is a multimeter and a small screwdriver.

yeah, its a 401. Last time i messed with it i knackered a few valves.
Sooo... what/how many of them valves do i need Doog? You can guide me through this and if it all goes wrong its YOUR fault

laterallateral wrote:Yeah, I'm a bit dismayed at that this is an issue at all...
I've never had a problem crushing a drummer with my 50W YBA-1 with ancient EL34s in it.

It might be my ears dude, our bassist reckons i'm deaf but i suspect he does'nt want me to get too loud lol. Our drummer is ridiculous though, he breaks sticks by the minute and if we are in a room with bad acoustics you end up with shellshock.

laterallateral · Post by **laterallateral** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:21 pm

chisa wrote:try a speaker with more volume

does this actually make a difference in terms of acheivable volume?
I tried a 22W amp with a 30W 12inch Weber and later swapped it out for a 150W Eminence Texas Heat and all I noticed is less breakup.

timhulio · Post by **timhulio** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:22 pm

Musicman 112 RP- I used to have one. You can get them in 100 watt config. Very heavy, but small in size.

laterallateral · Post by **laterallateral** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:24 pm

Fran wrote:It might be my ears dude, our bassist reckons i'm deaf but i suspect he does'nt want me to get too loud lol. Our drummer is ridiculous though, he breaks sticks by the minute and if we are in a room with bad acoustics you end up with shellshock.

Do you parctise/perform with earplugs? I always find earplugs (the cheap dollar store, squisy foam kind) really do wonders at separating the cymbal top end from my amp's top end.

chisa · Post by **chisa** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:29 pm

laterallateral wrote:
chisa wrote:try a speaker with more volume
does this actually make a difference in terms of acheivable volume?
I tried a 22W amp with a 30W 12inch Weber and later swapped it out for a 150W Eminence Texas Heat and all I noticed is less breakup.

yeah, but not wattage, decibels.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:30 pm

laterallateral wrote:
Fran wrote:It might be my ears dude, our bassist reckons i'm deaf but i suspect he does'nt want me to get too loud lol. Our drummer is ridiculous though, he breaks sticks by the minute and if we are in a room with bad acoustics you end up with shellshock.
Do you parctise/perform with earplugs? I always find earplugs (the cheap dollar store, squisy foam kind) really do wonders at separating the cymbal top end from my amp's top end.

What? What did you say?

No, i tried it but could'nt get on with it.

I'll check them Musicman's Tim, although the re-valve/bias is appealing at the moment.

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:31 pm

you gonna do it yourself with doog's help or take it to somewhere local

chisa · Post by **chisa** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:31 pm

do you have the stock speaker in?

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