XII

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:22 pm

I hate to say it, but the body and a 65 neck could each sell for this much. TOGETHER they are fugly.

I would fix the neck into a regular six string, and then refin the body. It could also go 12, but since it's been hacked, all bets are off.

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:27 pm

OHNOYOU DI'N'T. Fuck, Suckered again.

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:28 pm

fucking hell. i'd say it'd be worth getting for the body and control plate, and maybe snag a XII neck seperately, but not for that price.

edit: that hadn't sold when i typed that post, someone must've just snapped it.

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:55 pm

I was still trying to buy that 30 seconds after I noticed the listing had ended. Must. Be. Some. Way.

DAMN YOU, INTERNET!

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:21 pm

It was worked on in the 1970's by a barbarian

bassintom · Post by **bassintom** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:34 pm

Have you looked at some of the other guitars he has up?Old Teisco,Vox,etc.

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:30 pm

Oops. I just saw the replies.

I bought it. Sorry about that. Normally I only post deals I have no intention of buying. This would happen behind the scenes and you wouldn't hear about it until I painted it. Then it would lie undisturbed in a pile for sometimes years.

Once I posted the listing, I had a WTF moment and hit the BIN. I am going to restore it properly, as god intended. I don't know WHAT to do about pickups. Curtis Novak sells them, but for $100 each. Anyone care to suggest options or colors? I would love to fix the red pick guard, but I also bought a white one. I like the idea of black with red guard. Whatever happens, it gets a matching headstock to hide the decapitation scar. I already tracked down the big flippy switch and the string retainer from Angela. (I know--they suck).

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:58 pm

what are you going to do about a bridge tho, they are fricking impossible to find, and when they show up they are like 300 bucks!
altho there was a 23 string strat in the 80s that has the same bridge and i see them sell for around 400-500 bucks.....
you should have asked, i has vintage string retainer i would have bro-dealed you.

James · Post by **James** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:35 pm

DGNR8 wrote:I don't know WHAT to do about pickups. Curtis Novak sells them, but for $100 each.

Sublimedo!

Sublimedo · Post by **Sublimedo** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:15 pm

are the Xii pickups nonexistent in this or do they need recoiling? Either way I'd love to help out. I'd like to think my windings are getting better.

EDIT- just saw a close up. I thought he had painted the covers scumbag silver or something.

Mr.Ripley · Post by **Mr.Ripley** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:33 pm

I say restore it as a kind of Maverick/XII and put a mustang tremolo in (That was it covers up all the wonky shit that went on down there). I wish you could save the guard since it's so nice(minus the great big holes) but if you want to make it look stock-ish it would have to go. If your not too picky then you could throw some Novak (or Sublimedo) XII pickups back in and a wide range pickup in the middle to get your Sonic Youth on.
Are you planing on turning it back into a 12 string or are you going to plug some of the holes and drill it for 6 strings?

James · Post by **James** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:37 pm

I may be wrong here but I think hurb made his own covers by gluing together robroe covers. You'll need four to do it but it'd be worth it I think. I don't think he used them in the end because the pickups were weak or something like that so he may send you the covers he made.

This is what I mean, glue the two red boxed sections together and discard the middle bit (but use a robroe cover)

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:46 pm

I am going for a 12. Mapplez is hard wood, and already it's got 8 of 12 holes. Robert, I didn't know what you had left. I am considering modding a Musicmaster bass bridge. I'll have to see once I get it how bad off it is.

Here's the Krist Novoselic pic I found years ago and could never relocate. I don't know if I am on board with black yet, but I love that guitar.

Check out this headstock REPAIR! I might try matching grain but not painting it over. Scars tell the story.

James · Post by **James** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:53 pm

DGNR8 wrote:Check out this headstock REPAIR! I might try matching grain but not painting it over. Scars tell the story.

I feel a bit odd about the painting of the grain on, but it's certainly impressive.

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:57 pm

that guy is crazy good!
i dig that repair that is really cool.
one main thing tho....
think about how much that repair cost.....
sure that guy may have gotten it for about 100 bucks on ebay or something but i bet just the neck alone cost around 600.

taylornutt · Post by **taylornutt** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:34 am

I have always found those 12 strings fascinating. Steve Mason of Jars of Clay had one and played it on their live Concert DVD. Such a unique design, but 12 strings rarely do well on a large scale.

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Song starts on 1:23 and there are some good shots of it about 2:30 and 3:16. Sounds great in the intro of the song.

Cheers

aen · Post by **aen** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:36 am

taylornutt wrote: but 12 strings rarely do well on a large scale.

Neither does christian crossover rock.

lancer88 · Post by **lancer88** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:03 am

not gonna lie, aside from the headstock - i think that guitar is the ballz

wish i would have grabbed it up and put a different neck on it

oh well - excited to see what you do with it!

taylornutt · Post by **taylornutt** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:30 am

aen wrote:
taylornutt wrote: but 12 strings rarely do well on a large scale.

Neither does christian crossover rock.

I generally would agree with that statement, though I wouldn't consider Jars of Clay a "crossover" band. They have had some good albums and some I didn't care for as much. Jars is a good band, but they change styles too much for me. If you're going to talk crossover success, I think a band like Switchfoot might be a better example. I think lots of people in the music business are suffering from a lack of creativity, including the Christian music genre.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:33 am

Mewithoutyou is the only "christian crossover" band I think is really viable. Though they're not so much a crossover band as a hardcore band that happens to be christian. I love'm regardless though.