Hazari-i-i-i-i like you veeery muuuuch

Post by **Doog** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:46 pm

Hotrox still look the cheapest now too, may well take the plunge tomorrow after I've put a few things up on Ebay.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:55 pm

Anything nice?

Post by **Doog** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:40 pm

Boss DD-6 and Zoom Ultrafuzz- I'm after the dolla, so I can't really cut any brodeals alas.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:47 pm

No worries - be interested to see what the Ultrafuzz goes for; may well sell mine.

EDIT: should also have offered when you originally posted; if you want to try mine for a couple of weeks before you part with your cash, you're more than welcome.

Post by **Doog** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:37 am

That'd be crazyawesome, if you're happy to?

jimib · Post by **jimib** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:12 am

i love mine too, still heeaaapppsss of settings that i havent even discovered yet

Post by **Doog** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:20 pm

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 1403321012

Snaffled one for Â£100 BIN, not too bad! Seemed a decent price that I wouldn't want to miss out on again.

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:39 pm

ooh they can be had for Â£100?

i might start looking then.

Post by **Doog** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:13 pm

Seems to be around Â£100, yeah. It's only like 30 quid cheaper than brand new though.

Looks like I won't need the lend of yours Benny, but thank you very much all the same- a very kind gesture.

riotshield · Post by **riotshield** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:50 pm

as many have stated the SMMH has the following issue.
if you record a loop and then switch to delay mode, the blend knob controls level of loop which means that if you want a low volume delay setting the loop will be almost lost.
i was wondering if we could make a tiny loop switch thing that will take the signal before the hazarai, will have send-return for the hazarai and will output a mix of blended wet-dry signals controlled by a knob?
that sounds doable hmm?
i expect mike to throw some science

Post by **Mike** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:57 pm

So you want to split the signal before the Hazarai and then recombine it with the buffered dry signal afterwards, and be able to control the blend of each?

That's doable. For ultimate flexibility I would build the blend stages as linear amplifiers so you can recover from volume loss if necessary.

riotshield · Post by **riotshield** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:07 pm

yes, exactly, what you reckon will be the smallest chassis for something like this?

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:10 pm

Late to thread (and shortscale in general due to a hectic day) - glad you got one sorted. Nice price to boot.

Post by **Mike** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:33 pm

riotshield wrote:yes, exactly, what you reckon will be the smallest chassis for something like this?

It needs lots of jacks, so it can't be too small. You need:

Input from pedal before Hazarai/guitar
Send to Hazarai
Return from Hazarai
Output to next pedal in chain/amp

Plus I would recommend a pot for each (post Hazarai and clean sound) ahead of a blend stage.

The only problem would be the blending stage. It would have to have sufficient headroom to not clip unpleasantly when mixing two potentially hot signals. This would probably mean a charge pump to run it off +-15V, which means more circuitry. Basically I would probably opt for a case larger than a Saltbooster case (Muff/Saltshaker sized) to have plenty of room for everything. Plus there is whether you would want it switchable to take into account. Basically it's not a simple task and needs a lot of careful spec'ing for it to be exactly what you wanted to solve the problem.

riotshield · Post by **riotshield** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:43 pm

hmm,sounds complex. and i wouldnt want to add a new adapter for the 15V voltage
do you think there is a chance that the wet/dry signals of the hazarai blend knob can be internally separated/directed to different pots (probably outside of the chassis)

Post by **Mike** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:46 pm

15V would be supplied internally via a charge pump circuit from the original 9V input.

However I have a lot of orders on the go and this would need some serious R&D, preferably with the pedal in question to hand to test prototyped circuits.

As for separating out the internal functionality to a breakout box? Forget about it. That thing is a computer, literally.

Post by **Mike** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:17 am

BTW I'm dead excited to see what Doog comes up with in Pancakes! with this puppy.

Post by **Doog** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:35 pm

Me too, should be with me tomorrow

Post by **Mike** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:42 pm

Cool, I'll try and remember to bring my DI box.

Noirie. · Post by **Noirie.** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:20 pm

Mike wrote:BTW I'm dead excited to see what Doog comes up with in Pancakes! with this puppy.

When can we hear some of Pancakes!'s work???