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Thanks, all. It is READY to paint. I have had several of these this year where I can't believe I am even looking at it, and amazed at how pretty it is. I just love the scratches. If it were anything else, I could layer clear washes of color on it so that you could see what is underneath. It's supposed to be cold but clear this weekend. That means clear coats by Monday.

I would be happy to use those bass covers, but the only thing I have found are the ones with pickups in them. It's amazing what you can do with Acetone and plastic. I am going to play around with it some more to see if I can make a clean one. I made one for my mandolin and it was a little lumpy. This sounds a little GHEY, but I may look into getting some white plastic sticks and rolling my own.
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if you buy the pickups for the covers, i'd gladly take the pickups.
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JUST SO YOU DIDN'T THINK I HAD FORGOTTEN YE. We had a spectacular sunday here in the DC area. I actually opened the windows in my house to let the fresh air in.

I ran out of primer on Saturday (and it took longer to get set up than I had anticipated). I went out on Sunday and bought some BIN shellac based primer and shot it. Drained the can of Oly, which was 2/3 full. I normally like to leave a little in the can just in case of mishaps, but sometimes you shoot the moon. I had one little BUG fly into the wet paint (photo6), but otherwise it went pretty well. I can still see plenty of scratches under the paint, which I am actually pretty pleased with. I think it's going to look plenty old. The white guard looks a little strange on it. It has more of a creme color than green. DON'T CARE. I also figured out how to mfg the final two pieces of the bridge and string areas that are missing.
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I can use this bridge base under the saddles. I am going to have to machine the insert in back with 12 holes. The guitar came with an Gibson ABR-1 bridge that fits the slot perfectly (one one end). I may be able to file it down and drill it to fit.
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i would've responded sooner but i needed to clean myself up.

this is looking fantastic.
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serfx wrote:this is looking fantastic.
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Is it possible to use the neck of a Shenandoah or Villager 12 string in substitute for the stock Fender XII neck?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1968-FENDER-VILLAGE ... 1e58f733e8
http://cgi.ebay.com/1960s-Shenandoah-Fe ... 1c0d6ff63f
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Our voice of one in the midwestern wilderness--Robert is doing that very thing. Either that or he made a neck from a pattern. Those acoustics are nothing sacred, I am afraid. I couldn't warm up to that steel rod inside (like it even matters how its built). But those necks will someday be coveted and converted to either Jazzy or Strat. I don't know what the rod setup is.

Man, that one linked went for $200. The tuners alone are worth that.
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DGNR8 wrote:Our voice of one in the midwestern wilderness--Robert is doing that very thing. Either that or he made a neck from a pattern. Those acoustics are nothing sacred, I am afraid. I couldn't warm up to that steel rod inside (like it even matters how its built). But those necks will someday be coveted and converted to either Jazzy or Strat. I don't know what the rod setup is.

Man, that one linked went for $200. The tuners alone are worth that.
I know. I wished I could have bid on it. The neck would have been a keeper.
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taylornutt wrote:Is it possible to use the neck of a Shenandoah or Villager 12 string in substitute for the stock Fender XII neck?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1968-FENDER-VILLAGE ... 1e58f733e8
http://cgi.ebay.com/1960s-Shenandoah-Fe ... 1c0d6ff63f
http://www.freedomguitar.com/images/fender5968.JPG
i believe robert made a project out of a villager neck... >search>
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you'd have to hack up the butt of the neck on a villager, it follows the soundhole.
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Post by CROSS »

What a great restoration.
I'd like to see bigger close up pics, even if it means less pics.
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I will post larger pics when I have something to show. Just boring clears now. I sprayed in the dark last night and early this AM before going to work. It can go a lot more quickly that way.

You have to watch your aim in the dark you can hit yourself in the face. We know that already--right, guys?

It went well in that regard, but my Minwax was losing propulsion before running out of freaking lacquer. It made it spitty. GDSoBMF. Nothing ruined though. But my freaking amber is pooling into orangey brown globs on the back. I think it is reacting to the tinted base coat I put on to cover the seam. It just makes it look old, IMO. I wish it weren't doing it though.
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How's the XII coming along? Haven't heard anything in a while.
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What you see here:
Painting is done, decal is on. The back of the neck looks pretty funky. It's not that orange, but there is too much red in it. This is because of the pigment I used to paint a solid color over the seam. I decided to allow for this kind of accident. If I hate it, I can always change it later. It looks believable. The tuners I bought for it didn't fit. I need the angled F tuners, which are on the way. The front part has some light blotches of the red as well, but it just make it look old.

I put the guard and metal on the body, the later the pickups. I will start wiring the next chance I get, so that when I wet sand, it will be a quick assembly. The pots came with it, as did the TOM and the tailpiece. I have already machined that tailpiece into a ferrule plate to slip into the hole in back. I just need to carefully drill 14 holes into it. javascript:emoticon(':shock:')
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I discovered THIS site last month and sent them an email, but never heard back. Screw them. I made my own--I have a drill press. This feature is not something any of us would add if we didn't have to, but the idea of a single, dense ferrule bar fires my imagination a bit--especially with a 12 string. As you can see I have the switch and knob. Now all I need to do is figure out WTF to do with them. I am thinking about using parts of the TOM for the bridge in front. The saddles have to sit on something metal, and the bridge I bought to fit would work perfectly for 10 of the 12 saddles. The side posts were just too big. I will have to machine it either way (read: files and sand like cro magnon man). Someone is bound to notice that the big bridge piece doesn't need the extra holes just below it. I left them because I thought they were part of the design, but they were used for another bridge. Oh well--I filled the really big ones.
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Cool. Thanks for the update.
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looks choice. would love one of them, even though i probably couldn't play it properly.
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That's the big question, innit. Who fucking knows what they sound like, really? That's why I was curious about the 4 string mandolin.

I also heard from this company about making the back plate. I will see what kind of price he quotes, but still go ahead with mine. It is freezing in my garage right now, so I haven't been eager to go out there and drill.
Thanks for the email.

If you send me a picture of the string layout (front/rear) with a few measurements, I'll see what I can do.

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zionsville is about 10 minutes from my house. strange.


looks great!
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I totally love where this thing is going.
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Nice work!!