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Post by **Mike** » Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:29 pm

Yeah having sat with Doog while he was playing it, it's such a shame that it's a smidge quieter when you engage it, something I never design my pedals to do, in my opinion you want a slight volume boost if anything to allow use of an effect to stand out live, and if you can have that adjustable by a control or internal trim, then even better. This it seems is the only real negative with the pedal.

riotshield · Post by **riotshield** » Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:39 pm

yes, this is the reason that for now the memory man sits at home instead of being in the pedalboard as i still havent figured out a way to make him work the way he should with the rest of the fellas in there.
since it sits at home, whenever u have some time i'd be happy to send it so u can 'investigate' on a possible workaround whether that would be a boost or something else

Post by **Mike** » Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:42 pm

I could always borrow Doog's now, he's just down the road!

Oddly this is something the DMM is brilliant at, you can give yourself a little kick with the preamp and THEN do the Blend thing. Best of both worlds.

less_cunning · Post by **less_cunning** » Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:39 pm

loop-wise: i wish the loop could be delayed as well, somehow. not exactly a gripe. mind you. just means not having to use another delay--

i think that when the Deluxe Memory Boy comes out you are still going to have your DMM-diehards hatin' on the DMB. but why hate? DMM is clearly a great delay pedal, nothing is going to supplant it. but there is an OBVIOUS demand for lower-priced analog delays. & EHX is deftly filling that void.

Post by **Doog** » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:55 pm

Would it be feasible to stick a boost pot in it, do you reckon, Mike? Like a basic Saltbooster affair? Even just a trim pot inside would be awesome and sort out a lot of problems.

Post by **Mike** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:32 pm

Doog wrote:Would it be feasible to stick a boost pot in it, do you reckon, Mike? Like a basic Saltbooster affair? Even just a trim pot inside would be awesome and sort out a lot of problems.

Nah man it's a bit too tight in there for anything I think, which is a shame, it'd have to be an external box.

Post by **Doog** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:46 pm

It's not massively tight in there, but I can imagine putting a booster at the end of the line could be tricky, given the general scary digitalness of it all..

Noirie. · Post by **Noirie.** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:48 pm

Might bugger up resell value then. What are these problems your having with it?

Edit: Wait, Just read through the thread

Post by **Mike** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:51 pm

Doog wrote:It's not massively tight in there, but I can imagine putting a booster at the end of the line could be tricky, given the general scary digitalness of it all..

Hmm.. the problem is not the digital, but how to hack into the circuit before the bypass switch. I'll have a closer look next time we practise. It could be possible.

Noirie. · Post by **Noirie.** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:59 pm

Doog wrote:Would it be feasible to stick a boost pot in it, do you reckon, Mike? Like a basic Saltbooster affair? Even just a trim pot inside would be awesome and sort out a lot of problems.

Couldn't you get/put together a Loop pedal with a boost built in?

Post by **Doog** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:43 pm

It's certainly an option, but my pedalboard is crowded enough really (gonna rehouse my Wolf Computer I think, the circuit is TINY), and it just seems like a "make-do" rather than a "fix".

Post by **Mike** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:47 pm

I think it can be done. It would involve hacking into the wiring loom which is going from the main board to the switch PCB but I think I could do it.

Basically a Saltbooster stage with a trimpot could provide a clean post-delay boost of the entire signal. This would solve the problem, right? Because then you could set the blend and not have the original signal suffer.

Post by **Doog** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:50 pm

Mike wrote:I think it can be done. It would involve hacking into the wiring loom which is going from the main board to the switch PCB but I think I could do it.

Basically a Saltbooster stage with a trimpot could provide a clean post-delay boost of the entire signal. This would solve the problem, right? Because then you could set the blend and not have the original signal suffer.

Yeahyeah, a boost of what's being sent to the output would bang-on since it's always nice to have any effect boosted a bit (like you said earlier), and some of the sounds could definitely use it.

One thing I did find with my Saltbooster is that it adds a slight clipping to the sound regardless of the boost volume, or volume of what's going into it. Is that fixable?

Post by **Mike** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:52 pm

Right, OK. I'll make up a lil board and also will check it out further when I'm next over there.

Post by **Doog** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:54 pm

Excellent, thanks a lot mate, I really appreciate it.

Post by **Mike** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:57 pm

Doog wrote:One thing I did find with my Saltbooster is that it adds a slight clipping to the sound regardless of the boost volume, or volume of what's going into it. Is that fixable?

Never experienced this ever personally mate. The boosting it would be doing is likely to be very small indeed in this instance so it should be fairly transparent.

sp3k · Post by **sp3k** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:15 pm

Mike wrote:I think it can be done. It would involve hacking into the wiring loom which is going from the main board to the switch PCB but I think I could do it.

Basically a Saltbooster stage with a trimpot could provide a clean post-delay boost of the entire signal. This would solve the problem, right? Because then you could set the blend and not have the original signal suffer.

If you can make this i'm sending you my mm. if you could fit a pot in there instead of a trimpot it would be even better

Post by **Mike** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:31 pm

A pot mounted on the outside of the case, I'd have to size it up to see if it's possible to fit a regular sized one in. A mini one like ZVex uses would definitely fit though I imagine:

http://www.banzaimusic.com/Alpha-9mm-100k-log.html

The tricky part will be intercepting the signal from the SMMwH to the 3PDT. If I can hack into that then we're in business, sourcing 9V and GND from the board shouldn't be too hard, in fact they might also be present on the switch loom.

Post by **Doog** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:14 pm

I don't have a rule* on me, but there's a nice British QUID for a visual reference of the size available around the sides.

Slightly less than the 22mm diameter Google tells me my quid has, probably 20mm.

* PEDANT FORCE GO!!

Post by **Mike** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:24 pm

Well the small pots I posted there have a diameter of 9mm so that'll fit no bother, but the ones I use are like 16mm so that will be a little bit closer. It would probably be better to use the small ones, but I don't have any. I'll pick some up when I do an order at some point.