Building a telecaster.

izodiak · Post by **izodiak** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:14 pm

(sorry if this is a bit boring etc, but Your advice always is really helpful)
Sooo.. If Ive came over a thought to make a simple,nice telecaster..
and get a nice (kind of) vintage sound..
and I have these ideas..

this body
its a sea foam green or TV yellow(vintage cream) paulownia wood body.
then I think to snatch a neck off ebay (some mim maple neck) / or from one of You guys, hehe
"Pure Vintage" Neovin Noiseless Tele pickups (from GHS)
Wilkinson Compensated Tele Bridge (from GHS)
with this mint green pickguard,maybe better white..
and all the electronic'al parts, hardware parts, tuners Im thinking of snatching from the GHS,
because I think they have good prices, and the quality looks kind of good.

Is this gonna work, any suggestions ?

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:30 pm

It'll work fine, but it won't sound like a telecaster with those pickups.

I'd suggest you pick up a set of the GFS fatbodies instead of humbuckers.

izodiak · Post by **izodiak** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:35 pm

nono.. not humbuckers, dont like humbuckers.. (in a tele, kainda)

these pickups
as I understand they are noiseless, and get a good sound, and the sound clips they provide sound good.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:40 pm

Neovins are humbuckers

gfs site wrote: Neovins are dual coil humbuckers that are encapsulated in a unique ground shield array. The exposed polepieces are not magnets, but rather part of this array. With high tech, high efficiency Neodymium magnets, the neovins produce all of the explosive power, tone and sparkle of vintage pickups, with virtually ZERO hum and noise.

The pole pieces you see aren't actually pole pieces but bits of the metal shilding made too look as such. These are dual coil pickups and as such no matter how "vintagey" they make them are gonna honk more than twang. You may be able to swing a single coil sound out of them, but it'll be more strat than tele. Because of how the magnets work these are also apparently a pain in the ass to set pickup height on, they apparently need to be almost touching the strings to get proper volumes... which isn't a positive if you're an aggressive strummer.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:47 pm

I just listen to the demos... I stand corrected, somehow they got that bridge to sound twangy as hell!
[stream]http://www.guitarfetish.com/NeovinMP3/N ... RCLEAN.mp3[/stream]

Still... humbuckers in a tele just feels wrong.

izodiak · Post by **izodiak** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:50 pm

oh, sh*t, they have masked it good, for n00bs like me..
now I understand the noislesness(kainda)..
(is it the same deal with fender noiseless /stratocaster/ pickups?)

mm.. so yes, will check those which You suggested (thanks alots)..
Those fatbodies ar those with fat-polepieces..?

*yea, but they get them sound kainda good..
but Im kind of a strummer.. soo..
AND ITS JUST NOT RIGHT,hah.. but GHS has their mystic ways..

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:55 pm

izodiak wrote:oh, sh*t, they have masked it good, for n00bs like me..
now I understand the noislesness(kainda)..
(is it the same deal with fender noiseless /stratocaster/ pickups?)

mm.. so yes, will check those which You suggested (thanks alots)..
Those fatbodies ar those with fat-polepieces..?

Yeah they've got big fat pole pieces and if you read reviews they are pretty much universally beloved.

http://store.guitarfetish.com/alfaovpotebr.html

I'm pretty sure Fender "noiseless" aren't true noiseless. No single coil pickup can be totally noise canceling to the best of my knowledge. though I'm always willing to be schooled by one of the more knowledgeable folks around here.

izodiak · Post by **izodiak** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:07 pm

thanks, so changing my shopping(wish) cart, already..

yea, I cant say how they sound, because havent played (examined) a real noisy fender.
I have played just a few guitars, could be the least experienced guitar player here, bythe number
of guitars held in my hands, granted. haha. shame. and now I want to add a one homebuilt telecaster.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:50 pm

GFS neovin's are not like fender noiseless stuff.

fender noiseless are stacked single coils, like a p100. two coils one on top of the other to cancel hum, but the same amount of poles.

izodiak · Post by **izodiak** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:03 pm

mhm, interesting.. will check out p100

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:11 pm

nah, not worth it imho. there's one in the lp jr i just got, and it's nice, but i would not put it in a telecaster. plus they're kinda hard to find. much more efficient purchases (considering your locale) can be had for less.

izodiak · Post by **izodiak** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:24 pm

I just patiently buy everything in US and patiently wait for it to arrive , eh.

okey, its just interesting to read about all kinds of pickup 'problem' solutions.

oolu · Post by **oolu** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:47 am

hotrodperlmutter wrote:fender noiseless are stacked single coils, like a p100. two coils one on top of the other to cancel hum, but the same amount of poles.

I've read a lot about vertically-stacked double coils and horinztally-stacked ones? Other than the obvious, do you know of any differences?

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:08 pm

from my experience, just based on playing my jagmaster, my les paul, and my dot (all buckered) through the same set up i've run my strat with noiseless, the noiseless' aren't as balls to the wall. they sound as good dirty, as they do clean. they're not as loud, not as powerful, but they're a fantastic medium.

usually if i'm playing my buckered stuff clean, i tend to have to tone it down a bit, otherwise it is a little too punchy. then when i put the dirt on, it's too foggy. so i have to roll the tone back up.

with the vintage noiseless', i don't have to roll anything off. it sounds great at 10/10, dirty or clean. they're not for everyone, but there are plenty of demo's on youtube.