Hartke 4x10 with Celestions - $100

cobascis · Post by **cobascis** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:21 pm

So - I'm in the market for cheap cab. I was looking into a few different options and concluded that a 4x12 is to freggin big to bring back and forth to band practice, and a 1x12 is to small for my goliath bugera. So either a 2x12 or a 2x10 or a 4x10.
I was browsing GC used and found this:

http://used.guitarcenter.com/usedgear/i ... ce&dir=asc

It's near the bottom in Villa Park, Illinois.

USED HARTKE GH410A 4X10

After some looking around it has celestion speakers.

"The Hartke 410a guitar cabinet features the versatility and quality of a Hartke angled cabinet, loaded with the power of CelestionÂ® guitar speakers. The sound you want and the quality you'd expect, at a price you can actually smile about."

I'm not incredibly concerned that it has the best sound in the world, I know my budget is incredibly minimal. Seems like a helluva good deal to me and looks like it went for Â£199 new. How are 4x10s in terms of bringing them up a set of stairs?

Thanks!

Will · Post by **Will** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:00 pm

It'll still be 50-60lbs easy. I suppose it depends on how many stairs you have to climb, but I'm not even too keen about lugging my 4x8" up stairs.

I'd go 2x10 or 2x12.

cobascis · Post by **cobascis** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:42 pm

Will wrote:It'll still be 50-60lbs easy. I suppose it depends on how many stairs you have to climb, but I'm not even too keen about lugging my 4x8" up stairs.

I'd go 2x10 or 2x12.

Isn't a 2x12 about the same wieght?

Also, it seems there are many more deals on 4x12s and such, hard to find a cheap and decent 2x12 or 2x10. I guess I could get the Bugera 2x12, but I'm guessing there's better quality used.

What kind of 4x8 do you have?

Will · Post by **Will** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:03 am

my 4x8 is a Guitar Research brand from Sam Ash - someone gave it too me a few weeks ago cause it needs repair.

You can find 4x12s for cheap because everybody is ditching them now. The MGR by me has probably 20 in stock, starting at around $99 for something with Celestians. You really never need an amp that big for anything ever. They're a hold-over from the days before PA systems.

a 2x12 is around 35-45lbs, but the big difference is height. You'll have a hard time carrying a 4-x-anything on stairs and keeping your balance.

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:25 am

my old bassman 2X12 is every bit of 50+ pounds and its actually rather large considering.
what about a really good 1X15?
that would be able to bring the volume you want, and it would be a bit smaller than a 2X12, but it would still be probly 30 pounds or more(depending on size, wood, etc.)

cobascis · Post by **cobascis** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:28 am

robert(original) wrote:my old bassman 2X12 is every bit of 50+ pounds and its actually rather large considering.
what about a really good 1X15?
that would be able to bring the volume you want, and it would be a bit smaller than a 2X12, but it would still be probly 30 pounds or more(depending on size, wood, etc.)

I haven't seen a guitar 1x15. Aren't they primarily used for bass?

I'm also fine with a 1x12 - BUT it has to be at least 24 inches wide

The only one i've found is the vintage avatar one, and thats 250, which is more than I can pay right now. I wish the low end cabs were wider, like the valve jr. The low end vox cabs don't list dimensions, but they look small. Any cheap 1x12 that are wider than 24" that you know of?

cobascis · Post by **cobascis** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:29 am

Will wrote:my 4x8 is a Guitar Research brand from Sam Ash - someone gave it too me a few weeks ago cause it needs repair.

You can find 4x12s for cheap because everybody is ditching them now. The MGR by me has probably 20 in stock, starting at around $99 for something with Celestians. You really never need an amp that big for anything ever. They're a hold-over from the days before PA systems.

a 2x12 is around 35-45lbs, but the big difference is height. You'll have a hard time carrying a 4-x-anything on stairs and keeping your balance.

There is a guitar research 4x8 at a local shop for $100. How is it?

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:12 am

fender has, and has had a few different 1x15 cabinets and combo amps including the jazz king. the old bassmans, the bassman tv 15 etc etc.
pretty much every major speaker company makes a 15" designed for guitars. granted the speaker alone costs about 70-150 bucks, and then you would have to find a cab for it.
so really, pay no attention to my post.
if you lived closer actually i have an old peavey 1x15 cab that works fine and its like 20x28 or something like that, its rather big and heavey tho, so moving it around would be a pain in the arse.

cobascis · Post by **cobascis** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:19 am

robert(original) wrote:fender has, and has had a few different 1x15 cabinets and combo amps including the jazz king. the old bassmans, the bassman tv 15 etc etc.
pretty much every major speaker company makes a 15" designed for guitars. granted the speaker alone costs about 70-150 bucks, and then you would have to find a cab for it.
so really, pay no attention to my post.
if you lived closer actually i have an old peavey 1x15 cab that works fine and its like 20x28 or something like that, its rather big and heavey tho, so moving it around would be a pain in the arse.

heavier than a 2x12? or in terms of shipping?

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:26 am

its just as heavey, thats for sure!
probly 40-55 pounds and its a bit "thicker" that my 2x12

cobascis · Post by **cobascis** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:29 am

robert(original) wrote:its just as heavey, thats for sure!
probly 40-55 pounds and its a bit "thicker" that my 2x12

shoot. Wish the bugera wasnt so wide.

There is always the Bugera 2x12 for 199..

hopefully I'll find a cl deal or something.

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:41 am

i got rid of my 4x12 and stayed away from a 2x15 due to its size and weight. 2x12 is just right in terms of sound/weight ratio for me

Will · Post by **Will** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:56 am

cobascis wrote:There is a guitar research 4x8 at a local shop for $100. How is it?

OK. Not worth $100. If it was $50 I'd say go for it. It's also 4ohms only, and I think the Bugera only has 8 and 16ohm outs.

Sloan · Post by **Sloan** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:14 am

buy an old solidstate peavey 2x12 amp for like $50, take the amp part out, sell it and the scorpion speakers and put your fave guitar speakers inside. bam, light open back 2x12 cab.

Sloan · Post by **Sloan** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:15 am

OR STOP BEING A PUSSY AND GET THE FUCK IN.

Will · Post by **Will** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:32 am

Or you could put the head on the floor and a 1x12 or 1x15 on top of the head.

WIN/WIN.

NickS · Post by **NickS** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:54 am

Will wrote:It'll still be 50-60lbs easy. I suppose it depends on how many stairs you have to climb, but I'm not even too keen about lugging my 4x8" up stairs.

I'd go 2x10 or 2x12.

Spec in various online places says 38lb, though one says 30lb and I don't believe it..

Manufacturer's lank for Hartke gh410a

Mono: 4 ohms or 16 ohms, 120 Watts
Stereo: 8 ohms, 60 Watts per side

cobascis · Post by **cobascis** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:41 pm

I think I'll go with Wills genius but first.

http://burlington.craigslist.org/msg/1467155296.html

WTF is that cab? No grill?! Wood in front of speakers? Or is that the back - why is there a logo on the back. Halp.

Post by **Doog** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:45 pm

cobascis wrote:I think I'll go with Wills genius but first.

http://burlington.craigslist.org/msg/1467155296.html

WTF is that cab? No grill?! Wood in front of speakers? Or is that the back - why is there a logo on the back. Halp.

Looks like a PA cab or something, and a quick Google later shows that the Tri Flex series is indeed a PA series.

Post by **Mike** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:47 pm

Sloan wrote:OR STOP BEING A PUSSY AND GET THE FUCK IN.

Number of speakers = 72
Speakers mic'd = 2

Number of speakers in a 2x12" = 2