The Fender Jag-Stang

Noirie. · Post by **Noirie.** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:34 pm

Fran wrote:I have the best factory model, black w/red tort and Jag trem.
Me and Kurt were hanging out one tuesday afternoon and he said i was a douche for choosing the Jaguar trem over the Mustang trem, we had a pretty bad fight and i feel bad about that since he died later on.
Anyways, its all water under the bridge now, Krist said kurt often talked about me so i guess there's no bad feelings.

I still use that guitar to this day...

Hahahaha.

weeping_moon · Post by **weeping_moon** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:11 pm

cobascis wrote:$600 dollars is a cheap guitar?

i dont think they make jag-stangs anymore! thats why...
i have seen a red broken jag-stang for 980â‚¬.. used.. thats something to talk about!

weeping_moon · Post by **weeping_moon** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:14 pm

othomas2 wrote:I just sold mine... what I enjoy most about the jagstang is looking at it & that is all... like Mike said, its lifeless.

My main hate was the body size being so small yet so thick, and the lack of arm contour... I like large weighty guitars. The Jaguar fits the bill perfectly !! The JS just seem very toy like especially with that ultra thick poly. Other dislikes, pickguard not following contour of the body, would also rather a straight humbucker, and probably a 3 way toggle instead of the switches.

I like how others have built their own and put their own stamp on it ! Much cooler imo... not sad to see it go, I'll get just as much satisfaction reading the original guitarist review which was the first time I'd ever laid eyes on one. It was like wtf... how, when, why... whaa.... must have !! Nostalgia at its best !!

thatÂ´s not true at all...

weeping_moon · Post by **weeping_moon** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:18 pm

Fran wrote:
Mike wrote:
Fran wrote:Its as lifeless as the player.
How many times have you seen a live guitar player LEAN on a great design? You know, the average guy busting a Tele or Ibanez. Give them a Encore Strat copy, then see what they do.
I know we are all gearheads but at times our dependency is pathetic.
Are you calling Doog a shit player? He feels the same way about it. It has an undefined wooly response.

That seems to be the SONDZ you like, but it sure as hell isn't what I enjoy, and that has precise dick all to do with my ability or chops as a performer. DO ONE.
You dont have to take generalizations personal all the time Mike, i was'nt thinking of you, Doog or any specific person when i posted that. Im talking about guitarists in general.
Theres plenty of people think the Jaguar is a lifeless piece of shit, same as Ibanez RG models and plenty of other designs and i disagree. Like Johnny Marr said about the Jaguar- they just make you work harder as a player, unlike say a Tele that you just plug in and away you go.
I like this approach and i enjoy the challenge, besides, if a design appeals then its worth persevering with.

You might think i like wooly sounds, like you seem to think i want to drown all drummers out and i only play toneless Metal. But your wrong. My taste varies a lot, it just so happens to be i am currently in a Stoner Rock band so thats where im at at the moment.
Anyway, my JS is bright sounding. I'll bring it to Frogfest.

weeping_moon wrote:aha, where did you meet cobain? why did kurt talk about you so often with krist? have you been playing with non of those old grunge bands? because i think i recognize you in the picture!
I was joking dude.

ok.. but was it funny?

weeping_moon · Post by **weeping_moon** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:29 pm

here is a old scan of the jag-stang article from fender.

othomas2 · Post by **othomas2** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:46 pm

weeping_moon wrote:
othomas2 wrote:I just sold mine... what I enjoy most about the jagstang is looking at it & that is all... like Mike said, its lifeless.

My main hate was the body size being so small yet so thick, and the lack of arm contour... I like large weighty guitars. The Jaguar fits the bill perfectly !! The JS just seem very toy like especially with that ultra thick poly. Other dislikes, pickguard not following contour of the body, would also rather a straight humbucker, and probably a 3 way toggle instead of the switches.

I like how others have built their own and put their own stamp on it ! Much cooler imo... not sad to see it go, I'll get just as much satisfaction reading the original guitarist review which was the first time I'd ever laid eyes on one. It was like wtf... how, when, why... whaa.... must have !! Nostalgia at its best !!
thatÂ´s not true at all...

What's not true ?? Opinions are like @ssholes, everyone has one !! My opinion can't be un true.

weeping_moon wrote:What do you think? Is it completely crap, or a good guitar?

You don't seem too sure yourself ??

Noirie. · Post by **Noirie.** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:09 pm

weeping_moon wrote:
Fran wrote:
Mike wrote: Are you calling Doog a shit player? He feels the same way about it. It has an undefined wooly response.

That seems to be the SONDZ you like, but it sure as hell isn't what I enjoy, and that has precise dick all to do with my ability or chops as a performer. DO ONE.
You dont have to take generalizations personal all the time Mike, i was'nt thinking of you, Doog or any specific person when i posted that. Im talking about guitarists in general.
Theres plenty of people think the Jaguar is a lifeless piece of shit, same as Ibanez RG models and plenty of other designs and i disagree. Like Johnny Marr said about the Jaguar- they just make you work harder as a player, unlike say a Tele that you just plug in and away you go.
I like this approach and i enjoy the challenge, besides, if a design appeals then its worth persevering with.

You might think i like wooly sounds, like you seem to think i want to drown all drummers out and i only play toneless Metal. But your wrong. My taste varies a lot, it just so happens to be i am currently in a Stoner Rock band so thats where im at at the moment.
Anyway, my JS is bright sounding. I'll bring it to Frogfest.

weeping_moon wrote:aha, where did you meet cobain? why did kurt talk about you so often with krist? have you been playing with non of those old grunge bands? because i think i recognize you in the picture!
I was joking dude.
ok.. but was it funny?

huh?

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:18 pm

It was fucking hilarious.

Noirie. · Post by **Noirie.** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:05 pm

Btw i got teh kurtz journals for my birthday a year back. Most of this doodles of custom mustangs have jag tailpieces.

I could try and get some scans up if anyone cared.

Joey · Post by **Joey** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:46 pm

Fran... next to the "designed by Kurt Cobain" sticker on the headstock, I bet yours says "refined by Fran".

Mike's ol' Jagstang 5:19

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Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:14 am

Mike clearly loved the Jagstang back then

SAVEStheDAY · Post by **SAVEStheDAY** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:53 am

Fran wrote:Mike clearly loved the Jagstang back then

I loved mine so much I got another one! But like most Jag-Stang owners I eventually realized the limitations of the instrument...

weeping_moon · Post by **weeping_moon** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:21 am

othomas2 wrote:
weeping_moon wrote:
othomas2 wrote:I just sold mine... what I enjoy most about the jagstang is looking at it & that is all... like Mike said, its lifeless.

My main hate was the body size being so small yet so thick, and the lack of arm contour... I like large weighty guitars. The Jaguar fits the bill perfectly !! The JS just seem very toy like especially with that ultra thick poly. Other dislikes, pickguard not following contour of the body, would also rather a straight humbucker, and probably a 3 way toggle instead of the switches.

I like how others have built their own and put their own stamp on it ! Much cooler imo... not sad to see it go, I'll get just as much satisfaction reading the original guitarist review which was the first time I'd ever laid eyes on one. It was like wtf... how, when, why... whaa.... must have !! Nostalgia at its best !!
thatÂ´s not true at all...
What's not true ?? Opinions are like @ssholes, everyone has one !! My opinion can't be un true.

weeping_moon wrote:What do you think? Is it completely crap, or a good guitar?
You don't seem too sure yourself ??

yeah, youre right, opinions are opinions...

i am sure.. you can play whatever you want on a jag-stang. the only thing is how good player you are, thats my opinion.. so i cant understand why everyobody thats owned a jag-stang sold it, or says its shit..

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:25 am

so in short, you like the jag-stang and you can't understand why anyone wouldn't?
that seems very closed. i don't like active humbucker superstrats but i can see why someone would. i also love jaguars but they're not for everyone.

guitars are very subjective, otherwise we'd all be playing the same one.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:39 pm

I literally can't see why anyone wouldn't like the Jag-stang, apart from the body shape, which is fair enough.

Post by **Mike** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:36 pm

Fran: NO U

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:24 pm

<3 Mike

Shaguar · Post by **Shaguar** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:56 pm

I always thought that the Jag-Stang would look better if it actually looked like Kurt's drawing.

Post by **Mike** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:14 pm

Kurt's drawing was ARSE. He just taped two photos together, the muppet.

LAZY.

Noirie. · Post by **Noirie.** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:15 pm

Yeah but theres also his drawing.
Which just looks like a blue jaguar with a mustang cutaway and mustang layout.