Second guitar: thoughts?

BacchusJim · Post by **BacchusJim** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:03 am

It may not be my main instrument, but I'm getting very annoyed retuning my one guitar, an Ibanez GAX30. No complaints at all about it, but I wouldn't mind something different. Down to a shortlist of two at the moment: either an Ibanez Jet King of some kind, or an Epiphone Wlishere. Both very nice; in my view the Jet king looks better, but the Epiphone sounds dirty as fuck. Ideas? Alternatives? Was thinking just over Â£200, 24.75" neck for preference.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:49 am

Jet king by a fucking mile.

I don't know what they go for over there, but see if you can find a squier master series in your price range. The M-80, Master Telecaster or Master Strat. 24.75" set neck (FABULOUS NECKS) SD JB in bridge and Jass in neck. The m-80 is basswood, the others are mahogony. Beautiful instruments and probably the best quality squier has EVER put out. They play and sound fantastic, and the hardware is all good quality.

I got my M-80 for $140 US, and it's easily my go to guitar. So good that I ended up selling my Gibson LP because the M-80 just put it to shame.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:59 am

endsjustifymeans wrote:Jet king by a fucking mile.

I don't know what they go for over there, but see if you can find a squier master series in your price range. The M-80, Master Telecaster or Master Strat. 24.75" set neck (FABULOUS NECKS) SD JB in bridge and Jass in neck. The m-80 is basswood, the others are mahogony. Beautiful instruments and probably the best quality squier has EVER put out. They play and sound fantastic, and the hardware is all good quality.

I got my M-80 for $140 US, and it's easily my go to guitar. So good that I ended up selling my Gibson LP because the M-80 just put it to shame.

HA!

This was more or less my exact response when Jim asked me about this.

Jim, the M-80 would be like the guitar equivalent of your bass, so it'd be like a complete set.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:14 am

I have black but the transparent red is very nice. It's not shown but they also made brownish transparent one, much much darker than the amber.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:20 am

I like black. Was the brown not a satin, walnuttey finish?

Is this one of the Squiers where they kept changing the inlays every so often? Are there M-80's where the blocks extend to the edge of the fretboard?

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:21 am

i always thought these things were badass.

mickie08 · Post by **mickie08** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:29 am

there is also both set neck, and bolt on neck varieties. I have seen te bolt ons for around 100 used and 140-180 for the set neck. thats USD

Mages · Post by **Mages** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:34 am

you should get an Ibanez GAX70 or AX120. or if that's too close to your old guitar you should get one the GFS Offset Guitars.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:37 am

Not sure about those offsets. I can't see Jim getting on well with anything with switches or a tremolo. He's a simple sort.

I've thought of something else: take a look around all the Cash Converter type places there, and buy a hardtail super strat of some description. It'll look awful, but you'll get change of 200 quid, you'll have something a bit different (HSS pickups), and you could end up with something very solidly built.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:39 am

they don't come with JB's and Jazz's.

they come with duncan designed pickups

Mages · Post by **Mages** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:40 am

BacchusPaul wrote:Not sure about those offsets. I can't see Jim getting on well with anything with switches or a tremolo. He's a simple sort.

no trem and only your standard 3-way here

the jagmaster style ones you can just crank the trem down and forget about it.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:42 am

That's really nice actually. Hmmmm.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:46 am

i love the m80 but i never bought one because i always strum my guitar right at the butt of the neck. having a toggley right there would never work for me.

i love the neck on them though.

ESP makes a guitar called the hybrid that actually comes with a real JB in it though. you should check it out....its built around the same body style as the epiphones.

Mages · Post by **Mages** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:49 am

LINK: http://store.guitarfetish.com/xvsehodr18pe.html

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:50 am

oooh christ that's nice.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:58 am

BacchusPaul wrote:I like black. Was the brown not a satin, walnuttey finish?

Is this one of the Squiers where they kept changing the inlays every so often? Are there M-80's where the blocks extend to the edge of the fretboard?

There are M-80's that have no inlays, and a bolt on neck. They also have cheaper hardware and don't have SD humbuckers. I'd advise not getting those. Definitely stick with the set neck model, and the brown was a walnutty satin finish.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:00 am

robroe wrote:they don't come with JB's and Jazz's.

they come with duncan designed pickups

Way to be a stickler, Duncan Designed JB clone and Jazz clone.

I've played my DD JB side by side with a SD JB, and they sound identical.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:00 am

That's the one I was thinking of.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:05 pm

GAX 70's are well nice for the monies, or even the 75 model with Drop D switch.
Theres always the good old Jagmaster, i'd trust it over the Jet King and GFS stuff anyday.

BacchusJim · Post by **BacchusJim** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:47 pm

Good points, these.
I'd be all over Mage's tele thing if the shipping to the UK wasn't so ridiculous. Wouldn't be fucked with anything other than a hardtail or through-strung jobby. Switches I don't mind, but I prefer my guitar idiot-proof. If it's overly complicated it's only going to get broke.
Paul has a Jagmaster, and aside from the fact that he's called dibs on it I never liked the neck on those things. I'm a hamfisted type. The ESP would've been perfect, but for the slightly inflated price.
There's an M-80 going on Ebay I'll be keeping an eye on. Other than that the superstrat idea's not bad. Just a matter of finding a functional one.