Pedal suggestions for two different "sounds"
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Pedal suggestions for two different "sounds"
Hello, I am new to posting on shortscale but Have used it quite a bit for reference. I was looking for your ideas on two kinds of effects pedals.
The first is a "punk" distortion pedal.
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I want an early black flag type sound. I have heard that Ibanez makes a punkifier pedal, any experience?
The seond is a "spicy" fuzz ala
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Unfortunetly that one is $200.I heard that the pastrami overdrive from danelectro is similar. Again, any idea?
I am on quite a budget so cheap/Diy ideas are apreciated and I play mostly bass so freindliness to the low end would be nice.
All suggestions apriciated and all opinions considered. All posters thanked!
The first is a "punk" distortion pedal.
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I want an early black flag type sound. I have heard that Ibanez makes a punkifier pedal, any experience?
The seond is a "spicy" fuzz ala
[youtube][/youtube]
Unfortunetly that one is $200.I heard that the pastrami overdrive from danelectro is similar. Again, any idea?
I am on quite a budget so cheap/Diy ideas are apreciated and I play mostly bass so freindliness to the low end would be nice.
All suggestions apriciated and all opinions considered. All posters thanked!
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For the fuzz sound, look into a fender blender. The fender reissue is good, but Mike makes one that doesn't suffer the volume drop.
For the punk sound-
Buy a JCM 800 and drive it hard. Pedals aren't punk, overdriven valves are.
For the punk sound-
Buy a JCM 800 and drive it hard. Pedals aren't punk, overdriven valves are.
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*Stares hard at Ends*endsjustifymeans wrote: Pedals aren't punk, overdriven valves are.
Anyhow, moving on... A Rat will cover most of your distortion sounds, with overdrive and even fuzz at the extreme ends of the gain pot's travel too. Fuzz-wise, Dano make some nice udeful and yet crackers fuzzes (the coolcat, the French Toast) but most of us aren't buying new ones because the CEO is a homophobic arsehole. Plenty of secondhand ones around though. If not, the Little Big Muff does plenty as a first fuzz, plus the two pedals stack beautifully together.
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Lol, I mean the sound not the ethos. The classic 70's-80's punk sound is just tube amps with the gain maxed. All the punk bands I played with in my time in Makeway, I never once saw a pedal board. Just a classic valve amp with the gain set to "11".benecol wrote:*Stares hard at Ends*endsjustifymeans wrote: Pedals aren't punk, overdriven valves are.
Anyhow, moving on... A Rat will cover most of your distortion sounds, with overdrive and even fuzz at the extreme ends of the gain pot's travel too. Fuzz-wise, Dano make some nice udeful and yet crackers fuzzes (the coolcat, the French Toast) but most of us aren't buying new ones because the CEO is a homophobic arsehole. Plenty of secondhand ones around though. If not, the Little Big Muff does plenty as a first fuzz, plus the two pedals stack beautifully together.
Punk rock is about lo-fi rawness, and no distortion is as raw as natural tube distortion.
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brainfur wrote:I'm having difficulty reconciling my desire to smash the state & kill all white people with my desire for a new telecaster
No tube amps for the Flag, it seems:endsjustifymeans wrote:Pedals aren't punk, overdriven valves are.
Originally, Ginn used a Peavey Standard Series 260 four channel P.A. Head to create his signature tone. He simply plugged directly into the amplifier and played with the volumes turned up to the point to where the signal being produced was naturally overdriven. This procedure created a rather abrasive sound that he tuned alongside of the vocal stylings of each singer of the band. This is the sound you hear on Black Flag's Nervous Breakdown single, up to the album Damaged. Ginn later used a rack mounted Roland SIP-300 guitar preamp along with a QSC power amp until 1985 when he began using a Yamaha PG-1 guitar preamp with the same power amp until switching to a Crest PL400 power amp during their last tour. All of Ginn's amps and preamps were solid state, as he preferred them over tube amplifiers.
The earliest speaker cabinets that he used were probably marshall 4x12's. He used a Sound City 4x12 also. His earliest hand made speaker cabinets were fitted with two Peavey Black Widow 15" speakers. His later speaker cabinets were hand made, and used Electro-Voice speakers. One contained six 12" speakers, and the other with two 15" speakers. He then had two custom built cabinets with two 12" and one 15" speakers each. The type of speakers, being heavy duty and engineered for P.A. use therefore largely contributed to his notably dense guitar tone.
Currently, he uses a solid state Sansamp Preamp (overdriven) and uses a Macro-Tech Crown Power Amp with "more Wattage than I really need." The power amp drives a custom made 6x12 cabinet, which he likes a lot.
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So it's like that is it?
Are we forgetting the MC5, The Stooges, hell even the Ramones were around 2 years before Punk Broke in the UK.
Are we forgetting the MC5, The Stooges, hell even the Ramones were around 2 years before Punk Broke in the UK.
dots wrote:society is crumbling because of asshoels like ends
brainfur wrote:I'm having difficulty reconciling my desire to smash the state & kill all white people with my desire for a new telecaster
big muff and a crunchbox.
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Tee-hee - not really. Was just trying to get a rise out of you. I'm with Kim Gordon; people argue about whether it was the US or the UK that invented punk rock, but they're missing the point; girls invented punk rock.endsjustifymeans wrote:So it's like that is it?
Are we forgetting the MC5, The Stooges, hell even the Ramones were around 2 years before Punk Broke in the UK.
Thanks for the quick response! I will look at those heads because my next step in gear buying will probally be buying a head/cab and another bass. I have the following items in my rig:
Amp: 25watt (But VERY loud) marshall b25-mk|| Combo
Guitar: Oscar Shcmidt OB40 4 string bass. with 3 passive pickups which seem to be humbuckers.
Other pedals: Danelectro chicken salad, Sovtek Big Muff Pi.
It is a small rig but I have only been playing for 2-3 years. Alot of this stuff is pretty obscure so I am probally going to have to make a video.
Amp: 25watt (But VERY loud) marshall b25-mk|| Combo
Guitar: Oscar Shcmidt OB40 4 string bass. with 3 passive pickups which seem to be humbuckers.
Other pedals: Danelectro chicken salad, Sovtek Big Muff Pi.
It is a small rig but I have only been playing for 2-3 years. Alot of this stuff is pretty obscure so I am probally going to have to make a video.
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I can go with that.benecol wrote:Tee-hee - not really. Was just trying to get a rise out of you. I'm with Kim Gordon; people argue about whether it was the US or the UK that invented punk rock, but they're missing the point; girls invented punk rock.endsjustifymeans wrote:So it's like that is it?
Are we forgetting the MC5, The Stooges, hell even the Ramones were around 2 years before Punk Broke in the UK.
dots wrote:society is crumbling because of asshoels like ends
brainfur wrote:I'm having difficulty reconciling my desire to smash the state & kill all white people with my desire for a new telecaster
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