Fender Basterdpiece On hold again.

Painting? Routing? Set-up tips? Or just straight-up making a guitar from scratch? Post here, and post pics!

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Fender Basterdpiece On hold again.

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So I've been mulling this idea around for a while now to build a guitar and heres what I've come up with.

Super Sonic body traced on Alder, and then flipped normally to look like a Righty Jag would.
Jagmaster neck(if I can find a cheap reasonable one. If not full scale neck.)
Single coil in the neck(suggestions?) JB in the bridge with 250k pot.
No Rhythm circuit/rollers/switches.
3 way toggle.
2 volume controls (maybe split volume/tone controls)
Jaguar tremolo/bridge.
Dakota Red with W/B/W / off white / mint guard. (unsure on the guard yet. fingers crossed)


Thoughts and ideas are appreciated.

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tomin8r wrote:JB in the bridge with 250k pot.
Any specific reason for the 250k pot? I would go at least 500k with a humbucker.
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How do you make a trace of a guitar body, especially one with contours and curves?
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To Thom:

Yeah, I use 500k pots on my humbuckers, but I prefer the 250k for the JB to cut out some of the highs. I find with my playing style, I don't need it as high and I like a more rounded sound from a bridge humbucker. Since I don't have a tone pot for my Super Sonic, I just adapted to the 250k sound, and I find if I can get a good sound without having to mess with wiring in split volume/tone pots and messing with a tone knob, I'll take the easier(for me) route.

To taylornutt:

I simply got some MDF, took the neck of Super Sonic, and traced around the body using a pencil as carefully and slow as I could to get the curves. Once I had the outline, I cut it out and have it now as a template for the body shape. For the contours, I'm probably going to do free hand, with a sanding block or a palm sander, so its to my personal prefrences and what feels best for me.
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tomin8r wrote:To Thom:

Yeah, I use 500k pots on my humbuckers, but I prefer the 250k for the JB to cut out some of the highs. I find with my playing style, I don't need it as high and I like a more rounded sound from a bridge humbucker. Since I don't have a tone pot for my Super Sonic, I just adapted to the 250k sound, and I find if I can get a good sound without having to mess with wiring in split volume/tone pots and messing with a tone knob, I'll take the easier(for me) route.

To taylornutt:

I simply got some MDF, took the neck of Super Sonic, and traced around the body using a pencil as carefully and slow as I could to get the curves. Once I had the outline, I cut it out and have it now as a template for the body shape. For the contours, I'm probably going to do free hand, with a sanding block or a palm sander, so its to my personal prefrences and what feels best for me.
What is MDF?
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Post by tomin8r »

I just use MDF so I can get a simple template that holds together more than tracing paper. It's also good for cutting into if you are using it to be a guideline for routes and stuff as well.

So back on topic, I am a guy who has only been exposed to a strat trem system with my guitars. Is there a tricky learning curve to getting used to the quirks of a Jag tremolo/bridge. I know that the bridge is supposed to rock but I've heard of many people who lock the bridge down and use it that way. Any suggestions are welcome.

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Essentially the bridge is just sitting there with the tension of the strings holding it down, kinda like an acoustic saddle.
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So it's basically idiot proof? I'm getting kind of tired of dealing with strat trems and the springs in the back. My idea for this project is basically a what if scenario, if Fender had done a custom shop equivalent of a left handed('normal') bodied Super Sonic.
With that in mind, I kinda want it to be a bastardized stepchild of a Jaguar, Jazzmaster and Mustang, while retaining the smaller body.
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Post by taylornutt »

A good shortscaler demo of the Jag bridge.

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I am not a huge tremolo player, so my tremolo is usually locked down. I am going to give it another go.

I am considering adding a Jaguar tremolo and bridge to a telecaster soon.
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Hmm, it seems simple enough to work with, I've always wanted to experiment with a Jag trem, but haven't had the oppourtunity. I think this would be like a 'Gateway' guitar if you will, leading me to decide wether I could do a full Jaguar setup, or if it's just not for me.

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So I've decided on a long scale neck.

For now on this project shall be called the Fender Panther.

Does anyone know a good place to source parts like trems and bridges and such for a reasonable price?

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Where are you located?
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The frigid, frozen Great White North... but I live on a border town so I can order stuff and have it shipped across the river I live on to the American side and pick it up there.
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Axesrus sell the trem and bridge for a total of £41, obviously not genuine Fender but they should do the trick. They probably have other parts you may be interested in as well.
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tomin8r wrote: Does anyone know a good place to source parts like trems and bridges and such for a reasonable price?
guitarpartsresource.com. dguitarparts.com is also great if you can handle early 90's html and find what you need with out pictures.

I've ordered from both, have been super stoked & pleased about both.
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Alright, thanks for the info guys, I gotta put a list together about what parts I need and the approximate cost of it all.

Has anyone had experience with one of those no name Jag trems?

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UPDAYT:

It looks like this project may have to take a breather for a little while.. I had a fall the other day and broke a good chunk outta my tooth. Looks like funding is gonna be put to that now.

Will get back to this when I gots the moolah for a body blank.
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Post by tomin8r »

Alright, so I have a body right now, 3 piece maple, weighs like 10 lbs (!)

Pics incoming.
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Shitty pics, but it gets the idea across, the grain is AMAZING.

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Post by Berto »

with that grain, a semi transparent dakota red would look very nice
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