Supersonic WEIRD BUZZ SOUND ON B STRANG

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:08 am

Okay, so I've been working on this Supersonic for a few weeks.

One issue I just cannot seem to get fixed is this really odd buzz on the B string, sometimes also on the high E.

It shows up when open. I tried filling the nut slot with glue and recutting, to make it higher, still there.
Raised the saddle, still there.
Neck is straight.

I then got pissed at the bridge with it's weird saddles and shit, and after having the second fucking G string break in two weeks when doing a saddle adjustment I grabbed the strat bridge from my old Peavey, and installed that.

Yeah, the fucking buzz is still there.

This is with the action so high it's unplayable. I sighted down the neck while plucking it and it's not hitting a fret. It is not a fret.

Careful following of the sound with my ear next to it indicates its somewhere in the headstock area, but I cannot find anything there that might be loose.

THIS IS DRIVING ME FUCKING INSANE I NEED TO FIND AND FIX THIS. HELP PLEASE.

Leisureclub · Post by **Leisureclub** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:15 am

did you try any truss rod adjustment, maybe just a tiny bit of relief?

frorangejuice · Post by **frorangejuice** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:29 am

Try setting the action.

tomin8r · Post by **tomin8r** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:45 am

Id take it in, have a full setup done on it, perferably with 12s (

) and explain to the dude what your problem is, and he should be able to pinpoint it and fix it for ya.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:46 am

The neck is straight. I made sure the truss rod is right.

I do my own setups. I have never had this problem with my Jag and that has extremely nice low action.

This is NOT THE STRING HITTING A FRET. IT IS SOMEWHERE IN THE HEADSTOCK.

gaybear · Post by **gaybear** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:48 am

replace nut

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:05 am

gaybear wrote:replace nut

Already did.

mickie08 · Post by **mickie08** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:07 am

Bad tuner or string tree issue? Does it need a string tree?

gaybear · Post by **gaybear** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:09 am

Pens wrote:
gaybear wrote:replace nut
Already did.

i'd guess string tree then

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:12 am

I've come across random buzzes and it's fucking annoying. Check the tuners for any rattlyvloose stuff. I once had a bushing that sorta screwed down and the thread was gone and it use to reverberate at certain pitches.... Could even be something in the body and the sound is more audible headstock end. One of my guitars has a broken trem ground and that wire buzzes away against the plate through vibration.

Sorry not much help but if in doubt start removing and checking the other fittings starting with the tuners?

James · Post by **James** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:15 am

Swap the tuner with say the A string. Something not already that near it.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:20 am

Okay, now we are getting somewhere.

I thought maybe a string tree, there are two on these. I tried to tightening them down but that didn't help.

I'm going to check into replacing the tuners and I'll report back if that fixes it.

Thanks.

EDIT: I just checked the tuning pegs with the strings off, yeah the G and B pegs are mega fucking loose like I can wiggle them back and forth. The others don't do this.

I'm gonna locate some new tuners. I was not happy with the low E one anyway as it was acting weird (like it feels loose when tuning) so this was on my list of things to replace.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:20 pm

you need some left hand upside down tunarz fo that shit

othomas2 · Post by **othomas2** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:04 am

Sounds to me like you might have a rattling truss rod. I had this on the Motorik and had holes drilled through the fret board glue injected to try and elliminate the problem.

The good thing about the supersonic is you have access to it from the headstock ie. an opening.
see here... http://www.frets.com/fretspages/luthier ... ssrod.html

Try giving the truss rod a slight turn one way or another first, this might kill that buzz... or just loosen it slightly to give it a little more relief. The neck should never be dead straight.

& Before replacing the tuners, I'd just wrap them up blue tak first to avoid wasting money...

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:32 am

Interesting. You might be on to something here.

cobascis · Post by **cobascis** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:18 am

I've got this same issue on my Bronco bass.

Post by **Mike** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:14 am

IT IS TEH GHOST OF TEH KUIRTSZ

NickS · Post by **NickS** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:37 am

Mike wrote:IT IS TEH GHOST OF TEH KUIRTSZ

The ghost in the machine-head?

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:06 pm

Based on that page, I tried rapping on several areas and I believe it is in fact the truss rod, right around the 5th fret. When I tap there with the strings completely off I get a high pitched metallic ping where everywhere else, including the headstock, is the standard wood rap.

Has anyone ever done this whole dribble-thin-glue-down-truss-rod thing before? I'm a tad scared to attempt this, to be honest.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:12 pm

Pens wrote:
gaybear wrote:replace nut
Already did.

Change it again then.
Its a badly cut nut. The slots are either too low or have been cut by a blind man with a chainsaw.