True bypass versus buffered bypass

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Last month, just after having [i]not[/i] seen the above post, Mike wrote:
BacchusPaul wrote:I've always thought that Mike or Tim or someone could make a killing putting buffers into those tiny little cases that are about the size of your thumb. Sell a set of three for sixty quid, and watch all the tone purists go crazy putting them everywhere.
Might be a cool little idea.
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Now you see how much your words really mean to me.


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Johno wrote:Boss have brought out the TU-3 now, don't know what the difference is between that and the TU-2.
I like the Boss as you can daisy chain off it.
TU-3 has a "high brightness" option for the display, but the main change is the improvement in accuracy from +/- 3 cents to +/- 1 cent (to compete with everyone else).
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Boss TU-3 = £69
Korg DT-10 = £59

Basically I think the TU-3 should have no market share given how good the Korg DT-10 is and how tasty it's buffer is. I'm actually thinking of selling my (true bypass) Korg Pitch Black because even though it's a nice tuner, I don't want an all TB board. I could build a buffer like I've talked about but that involves an extra power jack getting taken up, and another patch cable. Probably best to just get a TU-3 or a DT-10 instead - whichever can be got cheapest second hand.
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Mike wrote: I could build a buffer like I've talked about but that involves an extra power jack getting taken up, and another patch cable.
You could put two power sockets on the buffer - it seems to be a selling point on the Boss tuners - and that would solve half the problem?
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Not really, you're still involving an extra of your daisy chain plugs. My Pitchblack already has DC I/O but it lacks a buffer.

However as a product feature it sounds like a good idea, people like that shit.
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I don't get the point of that demo.. is your pedal board all true bypass? It doesn't sound hugely different, spesh when it's being miked by a camera 10 foot away..
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BUT IT IS DIFFERENT DOOG, IT IIIIISSSS
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DO AN CLOSE MIC OR STRAIGHT TO BOARD

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE TONE MINUTIA
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Doog wrote:I don't get the point of that demo.. is your pedal board all true bypass? It doesn't sound hugely different, spesh when it's being miked by a camera 10 foot away..
I couldn't barely notice a difference, maybe a tiny loss in the high treble/presence?

You have buffers on your board and they're working well obviously, Matt. Without them and all TB pedals, you signal would be arse.
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after that vid i took out the buffers, sounded lack-luster. I had to move the amp's treble knob up which changed the treble/mid ratio and couldn't get it back up to par. I like things trebbly, that was the NECK pickup even.
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Yep, and I bet if you trod on a dirt box with the treble upped it would sound like shit.