A real '59 popped up on eBay

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:40 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/1959-Gibson-Les-Pau ... 0201197688

been watching the price since $75,000. Amazing what these instruments go for but I do believe one like this will be worth millions one day.

jcyphe · Post by **jcyphe** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:50 pm

It's strange they put it on ebay and didn't sell it underground. That guy's gonna have to pay a bunch of taxes and eBay fees now.

Will · Post by **Will** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:10 pm

How does he know the bridge PUP is double white if the covers have never been off?

No matter where he sells it he will incur auction fees or other costs, but eBay requires no authentication. The counterfeit risk with '59 bursts is very, very high.

Or he just wants it exposed to a global market easily. Still, I would have taken it to Gruhns.

jcyphe · Post by **jcyphe** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:51 pm

Will wrote:
No matter where he sells it he will incur auction fees or other costs, but eBay requires no authentication.

That's not true. A great deal of these guitars are sold in private transactions and while there are costs associated with that it's nothing like an auction house.

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:17 pm

Will wrote:How does he know the bridge PUP is double white if the covers have never been off?

You can see what color the bobbins are by taking one baseplate screw out of each side on the bottom (there are two per bobbin) and shining a light inside. They are either side of the magnet so you can see straight through.

Will · Post by **Will** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:27 pm

paul_ wrote:
Will wrote:How does he know the bridge PUP is double white if the covers have never been off?
You can see what color the bobbins are by taking one baseplate screw out of each side on the bottom (there are two per bobbin) and shining a light inside. They are either side of the magnet so you can see straight through.

Clever, clever, clever...

As for private transactions, how would something like that even be set up? The limited market you get going private would also decrease the price - seems like auction costs are worth it given the larger market.

westtexasred · Post by **westtexasred** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:29 pm

Here is what Joe Ganzler said on the LPF in regard to this auction :

"OUTSTANDING job on the photos and auction! When you've got nuthin' to hide, you've got nuthin' to hide; those photos ARE "the authentication"!

Having said that, *I* personally don't recommend putting a Burst on ebay as a sales outlet. In reality, there's prolly 12 guys on the planet Earth at any given snapshot in time that are "Burst buyers". From my own personal experience with Burst buyers, I'd say HALF of that 12 are no longer buyers for ANY Burst once it shows up on the 'bay...

I'm sure the "reserve" on this one is set at US$750K, to make absolutely CERTAIN that it doesn't go through ebay. Looks like a great guitar; I'm sure it SOUNDS even better!"

When asked to explain why someone would bother to post this guitar on ebay if they didn't want to sell it there Joe replied:

"Pretty simple - to avoid ebay & PayPal fees! That, and to get the guitar in front of a World market, possibly ferret out some cash/trade offers, etc. Shoot, he might get an offer for a vintage Ferrari in trade, from some guy that lives in a rented storage space!"

http://www.ganzlerincorporated.com/

kypdurron · Post by **kypdurron** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:10 am

interesting. will look in 5 days again ... let me add a non iphone url: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0201197688

So now I only must somehow understand how it is possible someone would spend that much money on a guitar ... I mean hey, it's only about 100 vintage Jazzmasters

westtexasred · Post by **westtexasred** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:54 am

That burst by Joe's head looks like my Classic.

Narco Martenot · Post by **Narco Martenot** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:31 am

kypdurron wrote:
So now I only must somehow understand how it is possible someone would spend that much money on a guitar ... I mean hey, it's only about 100 vintage Jazzmasters

It's an investment. Sell it again in 5-10 years. I don't think you buy something like this to actually play it, unless you have an insane amount of money.

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:03 am

yeah sorry about the iphone link, i edited the op with a good link

FUCK if i had a burst i'd play it to hell and back.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:26 am

that shit's ugly. i mean, i'd rock it, but it's fucking ugly.

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:28 am

silly people. awesome guitars like this shouldn't be an investment they should be used to harness PURE RAWK POWER

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:34 am

precisely. i hope obama votes for the SLOAN act and gives all awesome humbackers to my ng sloan in order to fulfill their civil rawk duty to the fullest

serfx · Post by **serfx** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:12 am

the most impressive part is that the headstock has never snapped off and needed to be repaired in 50 years..
i'm sure shipping via UPA/USPS will fix that small issue

Post by **Mike** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:21 am

T.K.O

It's not even a good looking example. That Epiphone Gold Top I'm buying from Rob is far prettier.

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:25 am

Mike wrote:That Epiphone Gold Top I'm buying from Rob is far prettier.

lal wat?
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Post by **Mike** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:30 am

It wasn't at Doogfest III, it was at Doogfest II. Details are in Classifieds.

Better looking. CHEAP.

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:33 am

yeah, but that video cracks me up every time!
those gold tops are great looking, i'd take one of those over any other lp finish.

Mages · Post by **Mages** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:42 am

sorry mike but going by the price it's at now, it's at least two hundred times better than the epi goldtop. you'll never truly know tone until you take out a mortgage to pay for your guitar.