Rewiring my Jaguar

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Rewiring my Jaguar

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So I've probably spent in excess of 4 hours wiring and rewiring my jaguar (old MIJ electronics decided to die). New brass shaft pots, cloth wiring, etc. I finished it yesterday and tapped the pickups. They both seemed to click with a screw driver, though the rhythm circuit didn't work at all. Also, when the bass cut switch was flipped, it just buzzed. F*ck. More problematic was that when I touched the lead channel control plate (the one with pots) the buzz (non-related to bass cut) diminished (as it should..?). BUT, touching the 3 switch plate or the rhythm control plate OR the bridge just increased the buzz tremendously.

At this point I assume it meant I had cold solder joints to the ground (my MIJ has brass plates). I redid all those joints, not having a multimeter to check. Still messed up. I had a gig to go to, so I ripped it out and temporarily hooked the pickup directly to the input jack, but ended up NOT having time to restring it - I had to use a strat with light strings (worst. thing. ever. could. not. play.).

ANYWAY. Jaguar circuit is waaaay complicated, many things to go wrong. Tomorrow I will restart, but if I run into the same issues what do you guys think is going wrong?

What schematic should I use?

For an MIJ with brass plates, each indiviual section should be connected to the ground plates, and each ground plate connected by a wire, correct?

Halp. thanks.
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Whoa.

Sorry completely spaced what forum I was browsing, if mod could move this to either shortscales or projects, thanks!
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done
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Grounding issue.
What schematic were you going by?
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I was using the standard fender one, then a seymour duncan one. Pretty sure it was wired correctly.

Also how would you wire it sans the rhythm circuit, which I've been considering.
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if you don't get this figured out by Sunday morning, take a bunch of close ups of all the parts and we will sort it out for you
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^^will do. I was actually pretty proud of my work, too. then it didn't work.


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Post by robroe »

it happened to me when i was trying to get the dotsmaster to work. i wired that thing up exactly like it said i should. then after i got it all the way to california with me in my suitcase only half of it fucking worked.


Dots did we ever get it to work all the way? does it work now?
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fuck it, I just rewired it and no sound when tapping on pickups at all. pics to follow.
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hhahaha lulz
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here we go, shit pictures at the top but I think the bottom ones will be good enough for you folks? lemmee know if I need to take more/what of.

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Post by cobascis »

this is a good one

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Post by Earth »

Some SD diagram are wrong,including the jaguar one and if you wire it exactly as per the SD jaguar diagram, your guitar wont work....assuming we're talking about the same SD jaguar diagram as there have been a few over the years and some a correct.

Use this one, I drew it myself as the ones online were either wrong or of poor resolution. All black lines with arrows represent ground and should be all connecting together at some point. The bridge or trem must be grounded also. Its also color coded correctly.

It works, and its 100% verified.....anyone can see that by following audio path anyways.

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aannyyyone have any idea where I messed up?
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green and black wire are mixed up on the jack
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robroe wrote:green and black wire are mixed up on the jack
hah! really? I have no idea how to tell the ground from otherwise..
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oh I see it has that exposed metal bit on the otherside. ill fix that up and see how it goes.

before I stared this I wax potted the pups, should cut down on the squealies!
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Post by Mustang Melx »

robroe wrote:green and black wire are mixed up on the jack
I was just about to say the same thing, it looks like to have the tip going to ground.
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Post by Mike »

yeah, you're sending the signal from the pickups/switching to the ground tab on the jack. Bad times.
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Post by robroe »

did it help ?
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