100% wet reverb?

GlobalCooling · Post by **GlobalCooling** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:48 am

I'm currently looking for a reverb pedal to satisfy my experimental side. Of course I'd use it just to add some sound to chords and such, but I'd love a reverb to make my sound all reverb and no dry guitar. Is there any pedal that can do this? Thanks!

avj · Post by **avj** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:51 am

I know for sure the Electro-Harmonix Holy Grail and Holy Grail Plus can do 100% wet.

GlobalCooling · Post by **GlobalCooling** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:53 am

Great! I was already leaning towards EHX. Just wanted to confirm this. Thanks!

matt.dines · Post by **matt.dines** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:06 am

am i wrong in saying 100% reverb would be totally clean but there would be a little delay before the signal passes through the unit?
you need part of the initial signal to feel the "space"?????
cuz reverb is essencially just part of the signal going through the chain late isnt it??

waiting to be corrected as im a complete noob!

DanHeron · Post by **DanHeron** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:11 am

Digiverb can do 100% wet. Its pretty nice, i like it.

hugh · Post by **hugh** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:11 am

I'm waiting for PGS to get the cathedral back in stock. They're pretty expensive, but I'm a reverb guy, don't like delay much. Here's an demo:
[youtube][/youtube]
Kinda related, here's an EHX vid on effects tips, cheesy cool.
[youtube][/youtube]

avj · Post by **avj** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:17 am

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At the 2:40 mark he goes full open on hall; at 4:12 it's full open on spring.

hugh · Post by **hugh** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:20 am

Also, consider rack mount stuff. It's reasonably cheap for 80s/90s gear.

plesiosaurus · Post by **plesiosaurus** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:47 am

matt.dines wrote:am i wrong in saying 100% reverb would be totally clean but there would be a little delay before the signal passes through the unit?
you need part of the initial signal to feel the "space"?????
cuz reverb is essencially just part of the signal going through the chain late isnt it??
waiting to be corrected as im a complete noob!

Nope, you're thinking delay. Reverberation is the spacial information created by sound waves reflecting off surfaces. After a sound bounces off a wall, it travels and hits another one and keeps bouncing until all the energy is absorbed. The first reflection off a wall is the clearest and most similar to the original sound, which is basically what delay is. As a sound keeps bouncing around, all the reflections mix together into a mush. Turning a reverb pedal to 100% wet would give you the earliest reflections and the mush. Turning a delay to 100% wet would reproduce the dry just slightly later, which is what you're thinking.

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:16 am

I'm not sure if its "100% wet" but my Hardwire Reverb does insane sounding reverbs with the level maxed. Spring on full gets a sound of a tube driven reverb being thrown down some stairs.

less_cunning · Post by **less_cunning** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:56 am

i associate experimental stuff as having more to do w/ units having reverse reverb i.e. EHX Cathedral, Digitech Hardwire Reverb, & rack reverbs et cetera than 100% Wet. the Behringer RV600 has some interesting reverbs but it doesn't do reverse.

kim · Post by **kim** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:25 am

avj wrote:[youtube][/youtube]

At the 2:40 mark he goes full open on hall; at 4:12 it's full open on spring.

keep in mind the volume drop on these !

plesiosaurus · Post by **plesiosaurus** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:45 am

kim wrote:
avj wrote:[youtube][/youtube]

At the 2:40 mark he goes full open on hall; at 4:12 it's full open on spring.

keep in mind the volume drop on these !

I haven't noticed a volume drop on my Holy Grail Plus?

jumbledupthinking · Post by **jumbledupthinking** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:23 pm

No volume drop on my holy grail plus either.
Also, 100% wet reverb on these + volume swells = total win in an ambient context. Great pedals in my opinion...whilst the Cathedral seems pretty amazing, 'tis pretty expensive & takes up quite a lot of pedalboard!

Skip · Post by **Skip** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:52 pm

the holy grail plus is better than the holy grail imho

Rayjaysonic · Post by **Rayjaysonic** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:49 pm

+1 Holy Grail Plus, I got mine about a year ago and it's a great pedal! It's not that much more in price than the standard Holy Grail and the added features make it well worth the extra cash. You just got to love that Flurb!

electricsparkle · Post by **electricsparkle** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:58 am

hugh wrote:I'm waiting for PGS to get the cathedral back in stock. They're pretty expensive, but I'm a reverb guy, don't like delay much. Here's an demo:
[youtube][/youtube]
Kinda related, here's an EHX vid on effects tips, cheesy cool.
[youtube][/youtube]

I have one and its a relly good reverb pedal. I'm in love with it

. All the modes, the infinite reverb tap, saving presets, the delay, the dedicated tap tempo....I'ts so cool and no artifacts that I'd heard

I bought it from woodbrass in France for 148â‚¬!

avj · Post by **avj** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:51 am

plesiosaurus wrote:
kim wrote:
avj wrote:
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[youtube][/youtube]
At the 2:40 mark he goes full open on hall; at 4:12 it's full open on spring.

keep in mind the volume drop on these !
I haven't noticed a volume drop on my Holy Grail Plus?

I've also not noticed a drop on my Holy Grail Plus. From memory, I think things do get a little quieter (relative to the bypass signal level) after going past the 50/50 mix position, but I think it's an intentional design point. If, at 100% wet, the level of the initial attack was as loud as the bypass signal, I would think it'd end up being much louder as it reaches its peak and starts decaying.

I was borrowing a friend's Holy Grail Plus while awaiting a new tank for my '73 Vibrosonic, and I loved it so much I snagged one on local CL. I contemplated the Cathedral when it came out, but I was worried that I wouldn't make great use of its many features. As it is now, I mainly use the Vibrosonic's reverb for a very subtle spring and use the HGP for a pretty over-the-top hall sound.

One word of warning with the Holy Grails -- new and old -- is I've read they really don't play well with daisy-chained power. The HGP does not take batteries and seems to work fine and noise-free with the Voodoo Labs Pedal Power 2+ and several other Boss and EHX-supplied standalone 9V center-negative adapters.

lank81 · Post by **lank81** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:20 am

avj wrote:[youtube][/youtube]

At the 2:40 mark he goes full open on hall; at 4:12 it's full open on spring.

Cheap and great. A stalwart on any pedal board, including mine

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hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:29 am

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