Vox AC30C2 vs Bugera BC-30 212

Taylor704 · Post by **Taylor704** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:01 pm

Just thought this was quite interesting and worth sharing

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I don't know much about the new Bugera models but it's hard to argue when they sound that good IMO

chisa · Post by **chisa** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:31 pm

looks like it is a matchless rip-off. dc30 i think would have been a better comparison, but then again matchless ripped of the ac30

having said that, camcorder mic, twangy as fuck version of wish you were here doesn't really demonstrate too well, bugera seems to lack a little warmth too.

SKC Willie · Post by **SKC Willie** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:54 pm

I love the Vox but after watching the first 25% gain, the Bugera is a little more "twangy" therefore, I like it a little bit better.

I've heard the quality control with Bugera is still a little hit or miss.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:13 am

hard to say with crappy vid mic... but the bugera kind of killed it. Crisper with more twang and bite.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:23 am

But the lights on the front of the Bugera look awful.

Will · Post by **Will** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:22 am

The Bugera doesn't sound nearly as warm, but it's impossible to tell with that video. His guitar has that weird YouTube sound where it sounds out of tune, but you can sort of tell that it actually is in-tune.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:59 am

Also (and I'm likely wrong here): isn't basically every potentiometer different, regardless of how good production is? Like, take any two Boss DS-1's, and put everything at any given value and they'll sound different.

It seems odd to me to be concentrating on comparing them at certain percentages of gain. Why not just show what each amp can do?

Will · Post by **Will** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:33 am

BacchusPaul wrote:Also (and I'm likely wrong here): isn't basically every potentiometer different, regardless of how good production is? Like, take any two Boss DS-1's, and put everything at any given value and they'll sound different.

It seems odd to me to be concentrating on comparing them at certain percentages of gain. Why not just show what each amp can do?

Yeah, pots are spec'd to within 20% of stated value. So take two 100k pots, one could be 80k and another could be 120k. When you bring taper into the equation it gets even messier.

Then you have the 10% variation on capacitors, and the wild inconsistencies in tubes.

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:34 am

There's a given 20% variation in sweeps from one pot to the next. Given it's a camera mic on YouTube I don't thnk I'll even bother listening.

MISSINGNO. · Post by **MISSINGNO.** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:01 pm

If I had the cash for one of these, I'd already be playing one. It sucks that it's their most expensive model. But when you take into consideration the price of the Bad Cat/Matchless models, I guess I can understand.

I love me some EL84s.

Rayjaysonic · Post by **Rayjaysonic** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:18 pm

Hmmmm, I like the Bugera, but not sure I would want to pay Â£500 for one. Don't get me wrong, I have a Bugera V55HD and I love it but that was only Â£250 and there isn't much out there that compare on sound or features for that kind of cash. For Â£500, you have got a lot more choice, especially when you consider the second hand market as well.

MISSINGNO. · Post by **MISSINGNO.** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:25 am

Rayjaysonic wrote:For Â£500, you have got a lot more choice, especially when you consider the second hand market as well.

Exactly. I forgot about that.