Pedal connector patch cable things...

johnnyseven · Post by **johnnyseven** » Mon May 03, 2010 11:42 am

You can just buy the jacks but the George L cable is much thinner than normal guitar cable, therefore unless your Fender Tweed cable is very narrow you won't be able to use the George L jacks. However you might be able to use Planet Waves jacks which take cable of the usual guitar cable thickness, and i also happen to have some up for sale.

kim · Post by **kim** » Mon May 03, 2010 1:20 pm

i got a couple of those planet waves jack that are still packaged and all lol

the middle one is a bit more chunky. pw jacks are more chunky than george l's, the cables are also thicker, so takes up more space than george l's.

i just use cheap patch cables now really.

i use pro snake from thomann, 2,44eur for one, they also sell a longer one.(2,85eur)

BartMan · Post by **BartMan** » Mon May 03, 2010 3:48 pm

Between Lava and George L cables, I'm having better result with Lava. First, Lava's plug design makes it hold the cable better. Even with the stress relief, the George 'Ls seem to lose connection whenever I move pedals around more frequently than with Lava's. George 'Ls seems to add a fair amount of highs on my signal. It's not necessarily a bad thing, specially if I'm using a mid-heavy amp. But my amp is Fender-based and has a good high frequency response, so adding more makes it a bit too bright. Lava's cable doesn't seem to have any frequency boost. To me it sounded neutral. Also, GL's plugs are considerably larger than Lava's. That's important to me because I tend to go for small boards. So an extra inch saved on real state space means that I can squeeze another pedal in there.
As an economical alternative, you can get some of those Switchcraft pancake plugs and some Evidence Audio Monorail cables for $2.15/ft and just solder it to the plug. It doesn't add any brightness to your signal, has low capacitance, same size a GL's gauge 0.155 cable, and also backward compatible with your existing solderless plug. My friend uses Monorail cables with his George L's plugs with great result.

Dingus · Post by **Dingus** » Mon May 03, 2010 6:07 pm

I bought a Lava solder-less kit and hated it, plugs constantly fell apart when i moved pedals around. It'd be good if you never change your pedalboard I guess, and I did like having a very custom length cable to go from my volume pedal to tuner...

Anyone know a high quality maker of these super flat right angle ones?

In general I use the Monster Rock cables, but those are still bulky in-between pedals and on smaller boards I don't need all that.

BartMan · Post by **BartMan** » Mon May 03, 2010 6:12 pm

Dingus wrote:I bought a Lava solder-less kit and hated it, plugs constantly fell apart when i moved pedals around. It'd be good if you never change your pedalboard I guess, and I did like having a very custom length cable to go from my volume pedal to tuner...

Anyone know a high quality maker of these super flat right angle ones?

In general I use the Monster Rock cables, but those are still bulky in-between pedals and on smaller boards I don't need all that.

Switchcraft 228

Thom · Post by **Thom** » Mon May 03, 2010 6:32 pm

BartMan wrote:Even with the stress relief, the George 'Ls seem to lose connection whenever I move pedals around

Several people have said this, about George Ls losing connection, which I have always found a little bemusing as I used to move my pedals around "all the time". Rarely would a week go by that I didn't move something around, yet I have never had any issues at all with George Ls. Maybe I've been lucky. Maybe I just put them together right. Who knows.

BartMan · Post by **BartMan** » Mon May 03, 2010 7:43 pm

Thom wrote:
BartMan wrote:Even with the stress relief, the George 'Ls seem to lose connection whenever I move pedals around
Several people have said this, about George Ls losing connection, which I have always found a little bemusing as I used to move my pedals around "all the time". Rarely would a week go by that I didn't move something around, yet I have never had any issues at all with George Ls. Maybe I've been lucky. Maybe I just put them together right. Who knows.

I tried cutting the ends as straight as I can with a Stanley knife and screwing the ends just right. But every time I change pedals, there was always one that became loose. I got into the habit of bringing a multimeter tester with me to make sure that I put them back without a grounded connection.

Thom · Post by **Thom** » Mon May 03, 2010 7:57 pm

BartMan wrote:
Thom wrote:
BartMan wrote:Even with the stress relief, the George 'Ls seem to lose connection whenever I move pedals around
Several people have said this, about George Ls losing connection, which I have always found a little bemusing as I used to move my pedals around "all the time". Rarely would a week go by that I didn't move something around, yet I have never had any issues at all with George Ls. Maybe I've been lucky. Maybe I just put them together right. Who knows.
I tried cutting the ends as straight as I can with a Stanley knife and screwing the ends just right. But every time I change pedals, there was always one that became loose. I got into the habit of bringing a multimeter tester with me to make sure that I put them back without a grounded connection.

Fair play, you're certainly not the only person I've seen say they had issues. Count myself lucky.

Post by **dots** » Tue May 04, 2010 12:17 am

i try to use monster whenever possible. i'm a huge fan of their lifetime-no-questions-asked-exchange-for-new-warranty, even if i've only ever had to use it twice. spendy? yes, but i like dropping $50 and knowing that unless it is stolen, i'll never buy a 20-footer for my guitar again. or 10 bucks for a patch. and the tone is great.