I'm sure the store does check it out, but this is mandated by the county police, not the store. (I suppose you could compare one of our state counties to an English region. Much smaller but they serve a lot of the same functions from what I can tell.) It's more intended toward pawn shops or other such shady places, which this particular county has a lot of.GeorgeF wrote:What? Fuck that shit. Surely it should be policy to check the guitar when they first get it in.
Good buy though
Mosrite "The Nokie" model
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Thanks guys. I can't wait to bring it home. *sigh* 6 more days. I plan to use it on the 60s comp but I'm sure I'll be recording some stuff with it before then 
Yes it's rare, but IMO it's a damn shame that it's hardly been played in 20 years. Semie designed these guitars to be players, not to sit in a closet somewhere. I feel honored to be the first one in that time to really use it.
Oh yeah. I did find this page while searching for more info on Nokie models:
http://www.h3.dion.ne.jp/~mos.1963/collection-1.htm
There is one just like mine on there. The only difference being the pickguard, which if you translate that page, it says it's custom. So that makes it one of two known to exist, and this other one is over in J-land, where it would probably go for a ridiculous amount of money. Japanese people are apparently crazy about Mosrite.
I also found this:
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/k-gakki/mos-nokie1988ltd-sbl/
Fillmore, a Japanese company in partnership with Ed Roman guitars, is making (or made) reproductions of these Nokie models. However mine is clearly NOT one of these, it is the real thing. Side note, there is currently a lawsuit in US courts filed against Fillmore and Ed Roman by Loretta Moseley, widow of Semie Moseley, who started Mosrite. Fillmore owns the rights to the Mosrite name, but the lawsuit claims that pieces of the guitars are being made unlawfully, violating patents that Moseley filed. The reproductions, might I add, look a lot cheaper overall than the real thing. That's reassuring.
Yes it's rare, but IMO it's a damn shame that it's hardly been played in 20 years. Semie designed these guitars to be players, not to sit in a closet somewhere. I feel honored to be the first one in that time to really use it. Oh yeah. I did find this page while searching for more info on Nokie models:
http://www.h3.dion.ne.jp/~mos.1963/collection-1.htm
There is one just like mine on there. The only difference being the pickguard, which if you translate that page, it says it's custom. So that makes it one of two known to exist, and this other one is over in J-land, where it would probably go for a ridiculous amount of money. Japanese people are apparently crazy about Mosrite.
I also found this:
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/k-gakki/mos-nokie1988ltd-sbl/
Fillmore, a Japanese company in partnership with Ed Roman guitars, is making (or made) reproductions of these Nokie models. However mine is clearly NOT one of these, it is the real thing. Side note, there is currently a lawsuit in US courts filed against Fillmore and Ed Roman by Loretta Moseley, widow of Semie Moseley, who started Mosrite. Fillmore owns the rights to the Mosrite name, but the lawsuit claims that pieces of the guitars are being made unlawfully, violating patents that Moseley filed. The reproductions, might I add, look a lot cheaper overall than the real thing. That's reassuring.
When it comes to Japanese re-issue of Mosrites(various companies) they actually run the gamut from cheaper to being really really nice and expensive.
paul_ wrote:When are homeland security gonna get on this "2-piece King Size Snickers" horseshit that showed up a couple years ago? I've started dropping one of them on the floor of my car every time.
Sooo I finally brought the nokie model home yesterday. I love it! It has definitely been played...there is some wear on the arm rest (though it's hard to tell from pics and could probably be buffed out), and the frets are worn in some spots. But, it doesn't buzz at all, and plays great, so I think it's got plenty of life left. I played the crap out of it for a couple hours and ended up breaking a string eventually, so I decided I'd just replace them and take some pictures while I was at it. All of the pics are up here, but for now I'll just post some of the interesting bits.
Couple shots of the overall guitar:
Bridge and bridge pickup:
Trem block has the holes staggered:
Knobs:
Neck pickup:
Neck pickup out...notice the wood / putty around the pickup for some reason, and the bare wire for ground, which is only insulated in the control cavity:
Controls...not sure if that tape is factory? That tan wire is the ground from the neck:
Surprised to find out this has 500K pots...solder job is quite sloppy too:
Volute at the headstock:
Headstock / engraving. Notice how one screw on the truss rod cover is a different color:
The maple cap has a bit of flame to it:
Well, I think that's it for now. I'll be making some recordings with this shortly...I think this will be my main guitar for a while I like this so much I may order a Hallmark 60 Custom when I get the money, just to see the difference.
Couple shots of the overall guitar:
Bridge and bridge pickup:
Trem block has the holes staggered:
Knobs:
Neck pickup:
Neck pickup out...notice the wood / putty around the pickup for some reason, and the bare wire for ground, which is only insulated in the control cavity:
Controls...not sure if that tape is factory? That tan wire is the ground from the neck:
Surprised to find out this has 500K pots...solder job is quite sloppy too:
Volute at the headstock:
Headstock / engraving. Notice how one screw on the truss rod cover is a different color:
The maple cap has a bit of flame to it:
Well, I think that's it for now. I'll be making some recordings with this shortly...I think this will be my main guitar for a while
I like this so much I may order a Hallmark 60 Custom when I get the money, just to see the difference.-
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+1!!Pacafeliz wrote:wow.... this is TEH JIZZ!!!
congrats!!!
Pat.
Amazing. Want a go on it now. So unique, really pleased you got this Dillion and very envious too. The sandwhich'd neck with maple cap and tenon'd in just oozes quality. What is the SP? 5-piece ply or something lol, awesome. The putty could be there to stop microphonics.
How do them pups sound? Is the tremolo stable?
YOU MAY hAVE ALREADY WON THE GUITAR CONTEST. Keep ittt. Keeep itttt.
No explanation for the putty. Those pickups used to be sealed in amber like Pharoah's nuts. Or something like that. Epoxy? The soldering (though sloppy) looks like the Mosrite method. There's this thick piece of semi soft wire that goes between pots. I bet somebody monkeyed with it along the way, but who cares?!?!
No explanation for the putty. Those pickups used to be sealed in amber like Pharoah's nuts. Or something like that. Epoxy? The soldering (though sloppy) looks like the Mosrite method. There's this thick piece of semi soft wire that goes between pots. I bet somebody monkeyed with it along the way, but who cares?!?!
Yell Like Hell
Thanks guys! Yeah, I love this thing, not planning on ever selling it. I'm so glad I found it. One bad thing about it: everything you've ever read about Mosrite guitars being noisy under gain are true. This thing has a worse 60-cycle hum than any Fender I've ever heard. I might have to look into fixing that.
Strange thing about the pups: the bridge pickup is not like that, with the putty. The neck appears to be a two-wire pup whilst the bridge is obviously a 4-wire cut down into two. Check it out:
Completely different! That aluminum base plate (absent from the neck pickup, or otherwise covered in putty) is obviously hand cut as well. Also not sure what that white stuff in the pickup cavity is. Interesting. I guess it's true that these were pieced together from whatever leftover parts they had at the time.
As for the sound...have you guys ever heard Man or Astroman? Mosrite guitars were used all over their albums, and it sounds pretty much just like this one does. This guitar is THE Mosrite sound, despite its oddities. Like this:
Strange thing about the pups: the bridge pickup is not like that, with the putty. The neck appears to be a two-wire pup whilst the bridge is obviously a 4-wire cut down into two. Check it out:
Completely different! That aluminum base plate (absent from the neck pickup, or otherwise covered in putty) is obviously hand cut as well. Also not sure what that white stuff in the pickup cavity is. Interesting. I guess it's true that these were pieced together from whatever leftover parts they had at the time.
As for the sound...have you guys ever heard Man or Astroman? Mosrite guitars were used all over their albums, and it sounds pretty much just like this one does. This guitar is THE Mosrite sound, despite its oddities. Like this:
maybe you could fit a dummy coil under the guard like will installed in his danelectro.Dillon wrote:One bad thing about it: everything you've ever read about Mosrite guitars being noisy under gain are true. This thing has a worse 60-cycle hum than any Fender I've ever heard. I might have to look into fixing that.
I guess that's a possibility, but wouldn't that change the tone as well? There's not really much room either. I was thinking more along the lines of putting some better shielding in the cavity, and rewiring the pickups with better quality wire.
I made a small demo. It's the Mosrite straight into a Line 6 Pocket POD. That MoA song is actually one of my favorites, so I learned it and recorded a crappy take of it. It's all the bridge pickup, except for the end (kicks in around 1:25), which is neck and bridge. That's probably my favorite sound on this guitar.
http://www.supload.com/listen?s=INWe98
Note: It'll play automatically once you click the link. I don't really know any better places to upload this haha.
I made a small demo. It's the Mosrite straight into a Line 6 Pocket POD. That MoA song is actually one of my favorites, so I learned it and recorded a crappy take of it. It's all the bridge pickup, except for the end (kicks in around 1:25), which is neck and bridge. That's probably my favorite sound on this guitar.
http://www.supload.com/listen?s=INWe98
Note: It'll play automatically once you click the link. I don't really know any better places to upload this haha.