Cryogenic Treatment - BS?

euan · Post by **euan** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:23 am

Again sounds like old school mail order. I've never had trouble from them. but I've only used them once

Chillertone · Post by **Chillertone** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:19 am

Hmm

You know we are working to try and get A/B tests going. and feel that it's a crucial part of advancement
But we have three problems

1. The quality of reproduction on the Internet is very poor. like trying to promote an led television whilst watching an add on an old tube screen
2. I am a far better engineer than guitar player and would not do justice to the process
3. Everytime I try to get someone interested in working to produce sound clips, although they love the
improvement something goes west and it fails to happen..

We have however taken a significant decision and put our name down for a stand at the London Music Show in october and will have
Our testbed guitars available for anyone to try and compare. Hopefully we will make some connections and move the project forward.

Best Regards

euan · Post by **euan** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:23 am

I've A/B a selection of tubes in different positions and you can hear it in an mp3

Chillertone · Post by **Chillertone** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:33 am

OK thnx for that
I will investigate further and keep you posted

Post by **Mike** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:37 am

euan wrote:I've A/B a selection of tubes in different positions and you can hear it in an mp3

1. It's true, it can clearly be done.
2. Guitar playing skills are incredibly unimportant. In fact I would want ZERO shred skills or elaborate playing and instead just some simple chording and arpeggiated stuff.
3. You can do it yourself very easily at a low cost. Every computer these days is Â£50 of Audio Interface and a Â£60+ Microphone away from being a DAW.

euan · Post by **euan** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:46 am

Yeah the changes will be most evident in open root chords and picked notes together

johnnyseven · Post by **johnnyseven** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:46 am

I once rang them and the guy that runs the business (Derek I think his name is) was pretty grumpy, however their service was good and i've never had a problem with their products.

Post by **Doog** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:59 am

Chillertone wrote:1. The quality of reproduction on the Internet is very poor. like trying to promote an led television whilst watching an add on an old tube screen

Sorry mate, but that's nonsense; the internet isn't AM radio, y'know. The sort of people who are going to be interested in such a product will have a decent set of speakers or headphones to listen to your samples, and using either raw uncompressed audio or high quality mp3 (that 99% of listeners couldn't tell the difference between anyway), it'll be a very decent reproduction.

It's more about capturing the true sound using a combination of decent mics to emulate the "what you hear in the room" kind of sound.

If you feel either of those two factors are really going to discredit your product, you're in the wrong business, as these pickups are gonna be heard through amps being miked in the studio and in a live situation, with no doubt some digital conversion in the signal path.

Chillertone · Post by **Chillertone** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:23 am

hahahahaha Ok

So this is what it looks like when you've been cornered

This afternoon I will cobble something together for you.
I was looking for a reason to cancel the bank manager anyway lol.

Best Regards

euan · Post by **euan** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:23 am

we don't pull punches here

Post by **Doog** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:27 am

Chillertone wrote:hahahahaha Ok

So this is what it looks like when you've been cornered

This afternoon I will cobble something together for you.
I was looking for a reason to cancel the bank manager anyway lol.

Best Regards

Nah man, just trying to offer some sagely advice, no aggression intended!

Chillertone · Post by **Chillertone** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:43 am

ya know
I am definately up for scrutiny, and actually advice is always appreciated
The keen interest and open mindedness shown in this thread is refreshing.

All to often I have come across complacency and conservative views

Post by **Mike** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:14 pm

Good man, we're only being constructive. I want to believe it has an effect.

I have a Master's degree in Electronics Engineering so I can appreciate the basic Physics concept at work here, but nothing beats hearing the effects yourself. Looking forwards to hearing some clips.

Chillertone · Post by **Chillertone** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:58 pm

Hi guys
I havent forgotten you. I have the audio file just have to find a way to upload it.
probably tomorrow.

Chillertone · Post by **Chillertone** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:50 pm

Hi Folks
Please check your PM's
I have sent all contributors a link to an MP3 file
Although in the pm I said that I did not want the file generally available (I personally do not feel it is sufficiently professional),
please feel free to discuss your opinions in the forum.
When playing guitar there are many variables not least in picking action you may notice a difference in volume this is purely
cryogenics at work as I tried to keep the weight of picking even between guitars.

I would also like to thank you for nudgeing me into producing something and moving another step closer to getting cryogenic pickups heard

Post by **Mike** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:51 am

Hmm.. you didn't PM me?

Chillertone · Post by **Chillertone** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:45 am

Good Morning Mike
Strange that you didnt get the PM. I have re sent so let me know if you get it .

willlin · Post by **willlin** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:16 pm

Nor I?

If I may be as bold as to call myself a contributor...

George · Post by **George** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:25 pm

It might be prudent to upload something everyone can listen to at this point.

Chillertone · Post by **Chillertone** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:08 pm

Ok
heres the link you should have got
http://chillertone.com/shop/department/demo/

sorry i9f my PM's Didbnt work out as planned