decently priced Mustang 69 RI on ebay

[Caller]

I'm not sure if anybody's posted this in the classifieds or not but I found this on my routine ebay search

http://cgi.ebay.com/BEAUTIFUL-Sonic-Blu ... 3f01034848

For anybody that's looking for a RI it might be a good chance to snap one up.

[endsjustifymeans]

if anyone buys that one I'll trade them the white perloid pickguard on mine for the tort.

[Grant]

Bah. Want. Ever since hearing/reading from robroe that these have Jagstang necks I've been wanting one.

I have some paypal money right now too and that's stupid dangerous.

I'm gonna see where the bidding goes unless somebody here is rabid for it.

[hotrodperlmutter]

what a great price indeed.

[Phil O'Keefe]

Bah. Want. Ever since hearing/reading from robroe that these have Jagstang necks I've been wanting one.

I have some paypal money right now too and that's stupid dangerous.

I'm gonna see where the bidding goes unless somebody here is rabid for it.

Not to make your GAS any worse but... I have a '94 MIJ Mustang neck on my '75 Music Master (now a Duo Sonic) and the thing is my favorite neck ever - 24" scale, B width (1 5/8") C profile and nice and slim...

[robroe]

just to clarify this thread a little bit....this isn't a 69' reissue mustang.

this is a 1997 mustang.

69RI's weren't sold in the states until around 2002. they came with ugly fucking brown tort pickguards, not red ones. The neck is also cut a little bit bigger than the 90's ones. the 65RI that is out currently here in the states has a neck that is cut a little bigger around than that.

if you are looking for a jagstang neck, this 90's mustang is the closest you are going to get. they all came off the same line in the same factory right along with the jaguar and squier jagmaster necks that year

[Rox]

I had a 69 RI . Only problem I had with it was the pickups were weak for my style of playing . Otherwise built like a tank . Learned a lot owning it . Firstly basswood is great sounding wood and is not shit . Secondly I was cut out for Toros and Cyclones . Despite it all I might just bid on this fucker and get it on my rack .









My name is Rox and I have a guitar buying problem . And like it .

[hotrodperlmutter]

just to clarify this thread a little bit....this isn't a 69' reissue mustang.

this is a 1997 mustang.

69RI's weren't sold in the states until around 2002. they came with ugly fucking brown tort pickguards, not red ones. The neck is also cut a little bit bigger than the 90's ones. the 65RI that is out currently here in the states has a neck that is cut a little bigger around than that.

if you are looking for a jagstang neck, this 90's mustang is the closest you are going to get. they all came off the same line in the same factory right along with the jaguar and squier jagmaster necks that year

pretty sure that's a 69RI mustang, regardless of whatever you're talking about.

it's a blue mustang with a tort guard and a contour. it's a reissue of a guitar that was made in 1969.

[AkK]

Who bought it, i wanted it! =(

[stewart]

it's a blue mustang with a tort guard and a contour. it's a reissue of a guitar that was made in 1969.

nope, that configuration of guitar was never available in the 60s. it's a mongrel. i think those "FUCKIN JAPS" call it a 69RI, but it isn't really.

[Grant]

I am a man of considerable impulse and weakness.

[endsjustifymeans]

I am a man of considerable impulse and weakness.

You got it?

[robroe]

WHEN IT WAS SOLD IN 1997 IS WAS SOLD AS A FENDER CLASSIC SERIES MUSTANG.

QUIT FUCKING IGNORING WHAT I AM TELLING YOU, SHUT THE FUCK UP AND, JUST ACCEPT WHAT I SAY, AND YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING.

1969 RI'S CAME OUT IN 2002. they came in sonic blue/brown tort and puke whiteyellow/brown tort. the 90's mustangs came in olympic white / redtort and sonic blue/redtort


by your logic every american strat made after the american factory shut down for 2 years in the 80's is a reissue. if thats the case fine. stick by your guns, but if you don't think that every american strat made after the factory shut down for 2 years in the 80's is a reissue

[robroe]

i was so pissed off that by the end of my last post i quit typing before i made my point. fuck

[endsjustifymeans]

i was so pissed off that by the end of my last post i quit typing before i made my point. fuck

69 reissues also came out in comp blue, surely? I mean... I have one.

[Mages]

WHEN IT WAS SOLD IN 1997 IS WAS SOLD AS A FENDER CLASSIC SERIES MUSTANG.

QUIT FUCKING IGNORING WHAT I AM TELLING YOU, SHUT THE FUCK UP AND, JUST ACCEPT WHAT I SAY, AND YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING.

1969 RI'S CAME OUT IN 2002. they came in sonic blue/brown tort and puke whiteyellow/brown tort. the 90's mustangs came in olympic white / redtort and sonic blue/redtort

were they're any other differences? the neck right? what about the pickups?

[Phil O'Keefe]

WHEN IT WAS SOLD IN 1997 IS WAS SOLD AS A FENDER CLASSIC SERIES MUSTANG.

QUIT FUCKING IGNORING WHAT I AM TELLING YOU, SHUT THE FUCK UP AND, JUST ACCEPT WHAT I SAY, AND YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING.

1969 RI'S CAME OUT IN 2002. they came in sonic blue/brown tort and puke whiteyellow/brown tort. the 90's mustangs came in olympic white / redtort and sonic blue/redtort

by your logic every american strat made after the american factory shut down for 2 years in the 80's is a reissue. if thats the case fine. stick by your guns, but if you don't think that every american strat made after the factory shut down for 2 years in the 80's is a reissue

Rob, your assessment of the relative neck thicknesses of the various years of the Mustangs was spot on. Again, that was very helpful to me, and I thank you for posting that information. However, may I respectfully point out (with a full realization of my status as a noob on this forum... ) that the CURRENT Mustangs that are officially sold in the USA by Fender are ALSO part of the Fender Classic Series:

Classic Series '65 Mustang®

However, as you suggest, the current model clearly spells out that it is a " '65 Mustang " where the earlier versions didn't specify a model year in the sales ads / Fender USA marketing literature. Contrary to what you said (above) about the " '69 reissues " not being released until 2002, this was the case as late as 2005 - I confirmed that by looking up the Mustang in a 2005 edition of Fender Frontline I happen to have here in the studio. As with the models from the 1990s, it says "Classic Series" and does not specify a specific year that it is emulating / "reissuing". You can either take my word for that, or if you're still skeptical, I can take a few digital snapshots of the Fender Frontline catalog and post them.

However, setting that aside, there is some discrepancy between what Fender USA and Fender Japan does in terms of the naming and marketing of these guitars. For that, I do have an illustration - Here's a picture of my '94 MIJ neck's heel:



Note that it is stamped "MG-69" - which is the code they use in Japan to identify 1969 Mustang reissue necks. So while Fender USA wasn't marketing them as " '69 Reissues ", they were intended to be such by Fender Japan. Fender Japan still uses similar codes on their current production Mustangs - including the models that Fender USA imports to the USA as " Classic Series '65 Mustangs ".

Here's a picture from a current Ebay auction for a '65 reissue neck that shows the "MG-65" model code:



So you see, there is some legitimate reason for people to believe they are, and for them to refer to these guitars as " '69 Mustang reissues".

Now my theory - and again, this is ONLY a theory - is that Fender USA didn't feel the 90s - mid 2000's era Mustangs were close enough to the original 1969 era guitars to warrant being called a " Classic Series '69 Mustang " in the USA. For whatever reason, Fender Japan felt OK with calling them that in Japan, where they are still available and are still marketed as '69 Mustangs; which a quick look around on the Gakki and Ishibashi websites will confirm for anyone who cares to check.

I'm sorry to be so detailed in my reply, but IMO, you're not 100% on the mark with your comments either, and in my experience, whenever people resort to SHOUTING things like "STFU AND LISTEN TO ME", it tends to stifle discussion and discourse, not encourage it. Again, I realize I'm a noob here, but IMO, you'd be more successful at getting people to give credence to your knowledge and points if you were a bit less overblown in your responses when they dared to disagree with you. And dare I add, you might occasionally learn something yourself.

[Phil O'Keefe]

PS And again, YES the so called " '69 reissues " are flawed in terms of their historical accuracy, and the " '65 reissues " are much closer to the originals. On that point, we definitely agree.

[weeping_moon]

I had a 69 RI . Only problem I had with it was the pickups were weak for my style of playing . Otherwise built like a tank . Learned a lot owning it . Firstly basswood is great sounding wood and is not shit . Secondly I was cut out for Toros and Cyclones . Despite it all I might just bid on this fucker and get it on my rack .









My name is Rox and I have a guitar buying problem . And like it .

then you only had to change the pickups.. put some hot rails. two single hot rails will give a strong strong sustain sound.

[DanHeron]

So, the 90's Classic series Mustangs are the same as the Japanese 69' RI's? Besides the red/brown tort.