Gear Snobbery

Rhysyrhys · Post by **Rhysyrhys** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:10 pm

Fran wrote:A bit harsh on teh Metal guitars there Rhys, some very diverse models out there that play amazing. I cut my teeth on Superstrats so i've got a nostalgic fondness for the Charvels and Ibanez of this world. They also bring a lot of fun into playing

PRS make some nice stuff too although im not fond of exotic tops.. on ANY guitar.

I don't think of Superstrats to be metal guitar IMO. I have an Ibanez Roadster II I love it. Though it needs some love atm. I mean those pointy guitars BC Rich and the like, I've played a good few and loved the feel but just didn't see a lot of myself in those guitars. I know you have one of those as well Fran but its just not my cuppa tea, call me old fashioned.

Viljami · Post by **Viljami** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:49 pm

I used to be somewhat of an gear snob (with crap gear), but then I joined here and HALLELUJAH!! I own two squiers and intend to get more.
Do want an charvel. And a BC Rich, just to freak them "I take my music and band way too seriously" folks out.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:25 pm

Rhysyrhys wrote:
Fran wrote:A bit harsh on teh Metal guitars there Rhys, some very diverse models out there that play amazing. I cut my teeth on Superstrats so i've got a nostalgic fondness for the Charvels and Ibanez of this world. They also bring a lot of fun into playing

PRS make some nice stuff too although im not fond of exotic tops.. on ANY guitar.
I don't think of Superstrats to be metal guitar IMO. I have an Ibanez Roadster II I love it. Though it needs some love atm. I mean those pointy guitars BC Rich and the like, I've played a good few and loved the feel but just didn't see a lot of myself in those guitars. I know you have one of those as well Fran but its just not my cuppa tea, call me old fashioned.

Super strats are win... I want one.

Vis · Post by **Vis** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:36 pm

Speaking of which I did get a bit of stick for having one of these back in the day, basically because it was japanese (Oh the irony) but fuck em. It was one of the nicest guitars I ever played and it sounded great. Along with my Vox Standard bass it's the one instrument I wish I'd never got rid of

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:42 pm

Rhysyrhys wrote:
Fran wrote:A bit harsh on teh Metal guitars there Rhys, some very diverse models out there that play amazing. I cut my teeth on Superstrats so i've got a nostalgic fondness for the Charvels and Ibanez of this world. They also bring a lot of fun into playing

PRS make some nice stuff too although im not fond of exotic tops.. on ANY guitar.
I don't think of Superstrats to be metal guitar IMO. I have an Ibanez Roadster II I love it. Though it needs some love atm. I mean those pointy guitars BC Rich and the like, I've played a good few and loved the feel but just didn't see a lot of myself in those guitars. I know you have one of those as well Fran but its just not my cuppa tea, call me old fashioned.

Aye, the trouble with BCR is they have some 'classic' models and a lot of outrageous models that overshadow them. The Mockingbird is'nt far off a Gibson Explorer even down to the 3-a-side headstock, but stuff like 'The Beast' is just hideous.
I dont get on with Dean. The whole aesthetic offends me.

George · Post by **George** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:46 pm

BC Rich has always had sketchy advertising...

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Fran · Post by **Fran** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:06 pm

GeorgeF wrote:BC Rich has always had sketchy advertising...

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Meh, i'd rather look at that than Justin Hawkins holding a Les Paul. All the brands have used female model's, BCR fenced a huge section of the Metal market for a period and they milked it.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:15 pm

I'm snobby to a point about "metal" guitars, but probably not as much as most seem to think I am. I've owned two guitars of my own with Floyd Rose trems over the years, and my brothers two main guitars are Westones, both with locking trems.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:19 pm

ERIC WATTS ENDORSES BCR. FUCK Y'ALL.

othomas2 · Post by **othomas2** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:08 pm

Westones are great. My second guitar and I loved it.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:05 am

Fran wrote:ERIC WATTS ENDORSES BCR. FUCK Y'ALL.

That thing was genuinely fucking nice. It's not that I think metal guitars aren't "worthy" guitars at all, it's just that I always end up playing them, loving them, then looking at them and wondering if the pointy bits were really necessary at all.

See, one of the reasons I was always drawn to Burns guitars was because they had a sort of "hard" edge to them. The Bison in particular, which was the guitar that originally pulled me in, has some sharp horns, and the black version came with black hardware. It's a guitar that would look at home, in my opinion, in a metal or hard rock setting. In some way, I kind of wish my Nu-Sonic had been the all-black version so it looked metal as fuck.

I just don't see where or why all this pointy Ibanez stuff managed to stick around. I'm a snob, I guess, for thinking this, but if a 50 yr old guy comes out onstage with an Ibanez superstrat, even one of the more toned down examples, or a BC Rich or a Dean Dimebag Darrell signature and launched into Stormy Monday, it just doesn't look right at all. Chances are it will probably sound a bit wrong, too. It's the all-pervasive nature of the pointy EMG guitar that annoys me. Almost every guitarist you audition for a band is going to turn up with some atrocious dayglo orange chainsaw-sounding magic gay rainbow-shooting penis extension and it's just not on. Buy a proper fucking guitar. One that isn't designed solely for divebombs and an action of 0.00001mm to aid two-hand tapping that sucked you in because the pointy bits tugged at your massive inner child.

And PRS's are just the fucking worst. I would not have a PRS in any band of mine. Devilspawn that they are.

The problem is that musicians like to think that it's all about the music, whereas an audience takes in the whole experience. If you step out onstage carring what looks like a piece of wood stolen from a nice coffee table or a something stolen from a medieval armoury, they have expectations. Sure, it's nice to confound people at times, but it's probably better you do that within the context of the music you play, rather than trying to wring a heartfelt ballad from an active EMG-equipped aluminium-bodied pile of shit, thinking "OMGZZZ, I AM TOTALLY BLOWING PPLS MIIIINDS!"

Rhysyrhys · Post by **Rhysyrhys** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:50 am

ekwatts wrote:
Fran wrote:ERIC WATTS ENDORSES BCR. FUCK Y'ALL.

That thing was genuinely fucking nice. It's not that I think metal guitars aren't "worthy" guitars at all, it's just that I always end up playing them, loving them, then looking at them and wondering if the pointy bits were really necessary at all.

See, one of the reasons I was always drawn to Burns guitars was because they had a sort of "hard" edge to them. The Bison in particular, which was the guitar that originally pulled me in, has some sharp horns, and the black version came with black hardware. It's a guitar that would look at home, in my opinion, in a metal or hard rock setting. In some way, I kind of wish my Nu-Sonic had been the all-black version so it looked metal as fuck.

I just don't see where or why all this pointy Ibanez stuff managed to stick around. I'm a snob, I guess, for thinking this, but if a 50 yr old guy comes out onstage with an Ibanez superstrat, even one of the more toned down examples, or a BC Rich or a Dean Dimebag Darrell signature and launched into Stormy Monday, it just doesn't look right at all. Chances are it will probably sound a bit wrong, too. It's the all-pervasive nature of the pointy EMG guitar that annoys me. Almost every guitarist you audition for a band is going to turn up with some atrocious dayglo orange chainsaw-sounding magic gay rainbow-shooting penis extension and it's just not on. Buy a proper fucking guitar. One that isn't designed solely for divebombs and an action of 0.00001mm to aid two-hand tapping that sucked you in because the pointy bits tugged at your massive inner child.

And PRS's are just the fucking worst. I would not have a PRS in any band of mine. Devilspawn that they are.

The problem is that musicians like to think that it's all about the music, whereas an audience takes in the whole experience. If you step out onstage carring what looks like a piece of wood stolen from a nice coffee table or a something stolen from a medieval armoury, they have expectations. Sure, it's nice to confound people at times, but it's probably better you do that within the context of the music you play, rather than trying to wring a heartfelt ballad from an active EMG-equipped aluminium-bodied pile of shit, thinking "OMGZZZ, I AM TOTALLY BLOWING PPLS MIIIINDS!"

Someone is obviously very shook by this photo surfacing on Shortscale again.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:51 pm

ANY opportunity to post pictures of Eric up must be taken

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:52 pm

Hey, I'm not averse to posting pictures of myself in credibility-destroying situations.

This one I call SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY.

This one I call ERIC THE RACIST WITH AN AMERICAN (he really is an American)

This one I call ERIC THE RACIST WITH A DARK-SKINNED PERSON.

This one is titled ERIC WEARING SOMETHING RESEMBLING A SUIT.

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Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:26 pm

ekwatts wrote:This one I call ERIC THE RACIST WITH AN AMERICAN (he really is an American)

Aye, he looks American all right. You can tell because of the flag.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:31 pm

BacchusPaul wrote:
ekwatts wrote:This one I call ERIC THE RACIST WITH AN AMERICAN (he really is an American)

Aye, he looks American all right. You can tell because of the flag.

Not in that picture: Pro-Israeli propaganda literally covering one entire wall.

He's totally, totally American. Born and raised on a farm in Alabama.

With an Oxford accent.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:42 pm

I want the ERIC THE RACIST HATES PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS picture!

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:59 pm

This one?

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:02 pm

Its an Eric Watts solo album cover.

Vis · Post by **Vis** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:03 pm

That wheelchair is clearly some kind of knockoff noob beginner's pack wheelchair. I don't care if you can bunny hop up a flight of stairs in it, you're not playing in my band with that piece of shit.