Rat, Turbo Rat & LM308

sp3k · Post by **sp3k** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:15 pm

Doog wrote:
Doog wrote: The '92 RAT 2 I bought off Mr Winter indeed sounds very different to the current production (Russ from CAUTIONHORSES has one based on my recommendation and it's pretty nasty)
I take this back. Here is my working:

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hahaha! fuck mojo opamps

Bill Oakley · Post by **Bill Oakley** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:30 pm

I think in most cases with the chips in the Rat, you will notice a noise/hiss difference between them. The LM308 is pretty noisy.

johnnyseven · Post by **johnnyseven** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:39 am

Doog wrote:
Doog wrote: The '92 RAT 2 I bought off Mr Winter indeed sounds very different to the current production (Russ from CAUTIONHORSES has one based on my recommendation and it's pretty nasty)
I take this back. Here is my working:

[youtube][/youtube]

The only difference I noticed is that the new model sounded a bit brighter, however I like my distortion pedals to sound bright, other than that they appear to be very similar.

Thanks for doing the demo Doog.

Post by **Doog** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:49 pm

Yeah, it's definitely slightly brighter, but you can get them sounding EXACTLY the same with a bit of careful Filter knob-dialing.

Glad y'all dug it!

Gabriel · Post by **Gabriel** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:00 pm

That video made me want a Rat

damn it sure sounds better than my modded DS1

Post by **Doog** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:21 pm

I think the secret to using DS-1s is to keep the tone WAAAAAAAAAAAY down- I tried out (what I think was probably) a DS-1 clone a few days ago and sound pretty good like that.

Gabriel · Post by **Gabriel** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:24 pm

Yh thats what I do, its just not a very inspiring sound. However at the end of the month my Eastman (guitar in avatar) will be paid off and I'll be able to think about my next purchase.

I do have my eye on a 8 string Agile though

Post by **Mike** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:02 pm

See they did sound pretty different to me. I don't think there's any argument you can't dial them in to sound the same, however. But you might struggle more with one than the other.

I prefered the LM308 version in your video.

Simon · Post by **Simon** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:11 pm

I bought a RAT 2 first and then managed to get a good deal on the Turbo RAT. I then bought the '92 RAT you see in Doog's video. I remember plugging it in for the first time and thinking how much better it sounded than the RAT 2... I don't know, maybe I just didn't have the patience to try and dial in a half decent sound. I was gutted I couldn't really justify keeping the old RAT... I thought it sounded amazing

johnnyseven · Post by **johnnyseven** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:30 pm

I stumbled upon a killer deal from this place - http://www.oxfordguitargallery.com/ - last week, A brand new ProCo You Dirty Rat for Â£40! Being a fan of the Rat and Turbo Rat a thought i'd give it a go. If you follow the link to their sale on the front page you can see what other bargains they have in stock.

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:41 pm

Fulltone Distortion Pro [...] Â£70

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johnnyseven · Post by **johnnyseven** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:38 am

I thought I should report back on my findings after I did the Ruetz mod.

I really like it. Much less gain than without the mod but enough for my purposes. Nice bottom end which I like. I was using my Ampeg Scrambler clone to boost it too and I could get awesome tones out of it. Overall quite impressed.

johnnyseven · Post by **johnnyseven** » Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:05 am

So I ended up putting a LM308N in my Turbo Rat as I was intrigued by what kind of difference in sound it would make. I don't know if it is that fact that I played it through my Klon clone (set as clean boost with gain on zero) but the mod seems to have made a big difference. It seems to now have a bigger, fuller sound with a fair bit less treble and less harsh sounding overall. A bit more treble would be good, but that can be sorted using my amp controls anyway. I like it!