Is this a $2500 Serviceman masquerading as a '64 Jag?
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Is this a $2500 Serviceman masquerading as a '64 Jag?
Advertised as a 1964 Jaguar.
http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sel ... Z232561576#
A lot of stuff seems wrong.
Tuners are obviously not OG
Two string trees?
Headstock decal and placement seem dodgy
No truss rod nut (is there even a truss rod in there?)
Black nut?
Hard to tell from the photos of the body but:
Chrome looks like Stainless steel
Bridge and saddles look weird.
What do you guys think?
http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sel ... Z232561576#
A lot of stuff seems wrong.
Tuners are obviously not OG
Two string trees?
Headstock decal and placement seem dodgy
No truss rod nut (is there even a truss rod in there?)
Black nut?
Hard to tell from the photos of the body but:
Chrome looks like Stainless steel
Bridge and saddles look weird.
What do you guys think?
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Hard to say but that paint has not aged enough compared to that heavily yellowed neck. The neck could be vintage with replaced tuners and nut but I'm not so sure.
Also the truss rod adjustment doesn't look right but I can't say for sure since I'm not familiar with guitar that old. Did they usually have that giant gap hole?
Also the truss rod adjustment doesn't look right but I can't say for sure since I'm not familiar with guitar that old. Did they usually have that giant gap hole?
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I emailed the dude to let him know he might not have what he thinks he has.
He sounds pretty reasonable, I don't think he's trying to rip anybody off.
He did sound pretty disappointed that it's not worth $2400. Anyway, here's more pictures of the body. Maybe we can help him figure out more or less what it's worth...
He sounds pretty reasonable, I don't think he's trying to rip anybody off.
He did sound pretty disappointed that it's not worth $2400. Anyway, here's more pictures of the body. Maybe we can help him figure out more or less what it's worth...
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I'm really starting to think this is one of the better Servicemen guitars
Look at this pic of a term plate from a confirmed Serviceman:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YyWDE_zaOs0/S ... kejag6.jpg
The script and pat pend numbers are similar in style, size and placement. The collet is also very unusually similar.
Look at this pic of a term plate from a confirmed Serviceman:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YyWDE_zaOs0/S ... kejag6.jpg
The script and pat pend numbers are similar in style, size and placement. The collet is also very unusually similar.
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Re: Is this a $2500 Serviceman masquerading as a '64 Jag?
Maybe the truss rod broke when someone tried to adjust it with a seized nut?laterallateral wrote:No truss rod nut (is there even a truss rod in there?)
Did Fender ever do a 4-screw Micro-tilt neck? OTOH my '73 3-screw Micro-tilt plate has "Micro-tilt" written on it.theshadowofseattle wrote:Neckplate looks severely questionable. What's with the hole in it?
[edit]Yes. From Fender Australia's website
'86 American Standard Neckplate
This chrome-plated Fender neckplate with Micro-tilt hole was used on American Strats from 1986 to mid-1999. Four mounting screws included. Vintage "Plain," Am Std Bass and Am Deluxe Guitar neckplates are also available.
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Re: Is this a $2500 Serviceman masquerading as a '64 Jag?
I think so. The dude said that the rod, itself is still in there.NickS wrote:Maybe the truss rod broke when someone tried to adjust it with a seized nut?laterallateral wrote:No truss rod nut (is there even a truss rod in there?)
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Sorry. I know next to nothing about decals*.laterallateral wrote:Very interesting...
What's your take on the headstock decal, Nick?
*One weird thing; my '73 Strat came with a separate decal, which I still have, that is just like the one under the varnish except that it also says "with synchronised tremolo".
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if its a servicemen its the best i have ever seen.
the decal is not legit, for sure.
the wood behind the nut is different from the rest on the fretboard.
the nut is aftermarket.
its hard to tell from the photos if the trem is real or not.
i know that from the three servicemens that i have owned and the parts i have gotten before that the trem lock never works and is just there for looks.
my best guess is...
its either a parts guitar(as stated above)
or it is the best servicemen ever produced.
which is a possibility seeing as how the three that i owned were all radically different in feel, size, parts, and well. everything.
the decal is not legit, for sure.
the wood behind the nut is different from the rest on the fretboard.
the nut is aftermarket.
its hard to tell from the photos if the trem is real or not.
i know that from the three servicemens that i have owned and the parts i have gotten before that the trem lock never works and is just there for looks.
my best guess is...
its either a parts guitar(as stated above)
or it is the best servicemen ever produced.
which is a possibility seeing as how the three that i owned were all radically different in feel, size, parts, and well. everything.