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Grant · Post by **Grant** » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:51 pm

endsjustifymeans wrote:
sdgails wrote:will fender necks fit on these things?
Dunno for their shortscales, I'd guess they are probably conversion necks so no. For the standard scale, they supposedly will.
But why would you bother. The necks on these are supposedly approximate to higher end squier quality, and as such perfectly passable.

My SX SST doesn't have a conversion neck. I'll be able to compare it to a mustang neck in a couple of days. The neck pockets are a bit wider than Fenders'.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:52 pm

sdgails wrote:I have some MIJ Fender necks laying around....perhaps I will create A monster.

25.5" or 24"?

and how many are we talking about? those are quite few and far between.

tbh, the necks on the sx's are basically MIJ fender necks, with slightly less pretty fretboards.

cur · Post by **cur** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:32 pm

The 24" scale SX SST strat that I have is not a conversion neck, but I do not know that you could replace it with a fender shortscale either. They sell a douglas shortscale strat now that is a full sized strat body but with a short scale neck, so I guess it is a conversion neck.

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:50 pm

The one in the link has the same number of frets as its long-scale brother, which is odd. You'd expect them to use a conversion neck.

The picture for both is the exact same bloody guitar, though, so there's no way to compare them visually.

NickS · Post by **NickS** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:49 pm

porterhaus · Post by **porterhaus** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:52 pm

cur wrote:The 24" scale SX SST strat that I have is not a conversion neck, but I do not know that you could replace it with a fender shortscale either. They sell a douglas shortscale strat now that is a full sized strat body but with a short scale neck, so I guess it is a conversion neck.

Yes, it is a conversion neck on the Douglas Peragro Traveler guitar (I have one). The fretboard overhangs the heel of the neck. But you cannot tell that from Rondo's website pictures. Here is a picture of mine with the neck removed:

The other neck (with the skunk stripe) is from a Squier CV Duo Sonic. It is essentially the same dimensions as the SX SST strat. (I have one of those also.) I don't think they are conversion necks either.

BTW, the Douglas Peragro Traveler came new from Rondo needing some extensive set up work before it could even be played.

Here is a photo of the tremolo spring cavity on the Douglas Peragro Traveler guitar. The adjusting screws couldn't be easily adjusted. They were installed too high up on the back wall of the cavity and then bent down so the cover could be installed. I have already removed them and glued in a couple of wooden dowels. The dowels were then cut off flush and new screws installed correctly; lower down on the back wall, and at the correct angle (using a long, aircraft, drill bit).

OTOH, the SX SST strat was already set up pretty well from the factory. I ended up putting the Squier Duo Sonic neck on the SX SST strat. The Squier neck is a little wider at the nut and therefore suits me better.

cur · Post by **cur** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:29 pm

Well, well, well you sir are correct. I have both the duo and the sx and never really paid any attention. They are both roughly 17 3/8" from nut to butt. The Duo is a wider nut and a smaller radius.

I thought the duo was conversion. So I measured the pocket to bridge on a squier tele and the sx and they won't swap.

Did you have issues with the douglas neck? Fret job? twist?

Porthehaus, thanks for sharing. Any special plans for the Douglas? A new thread would be cool for the project.

porterhaus · Post by **porterhaus** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:03 pm

Thanks for checking those things out, cur.

Glad you asked about the neck on the Douglas guitar. The offset fingerboard wasn't offset quite enough for proper intonation. So, I ended up sanding a good bit off the heel to correct it. The frets look OK to me. And I didn't detect any twist or other problems with it.

I didn't mean to sidetrack this thread. I will likely be doing some things to the Douglas guitar and will start a new thread when I do.

macjones · Post by **macjones** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:50 pm

scandoslav wrote:
endsjustifymeans wrote:
sdgails wrote:will fender necks fit on these things?
Dunno for their shortscales, I'd guess they are probably conversion necks so no. For the standard scale, they supposedly will.
But why would you bother. The necks on these are supposedly approximate to higher end squier quality, and as such perfectly passable.
My SX SST doesn't have a conversion neck. I'll be able to compare it to a mustang neck in a couple of days. The neck pockets are a bit wider than Fenders'.

Hi, first post

Did you compare the mustang neck with the SX SST?

I'm thinking of getting a SX SST57 and I have about 5 mustang/jaguar necks.

This would be a great combo if it's doable.

note: I noticed someone measured the length of the neck from the heal to the nut, for both the duo-sonic and SX (17 3/8"). The Mustangs I have are a bit longer (about 17 6/8"), but there are other factors to consider.

I'm a bit wary of the SX's nut width of 1 1/2. That's really narrow. So if I was going to throw the $100 on this SX i'd want the option of a mustang neck as i'm pretty sure that SX neck would be an issue. (maybe not though)

thanks

cur · Post by **cur** » Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:27 pm

I don't have a mustang or anything else to compare with other that the CV Duo.

cur · Post by **cur** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:19 am

cur wrote:Well, well, well you sir are correct. I have both the duo and the sx and never really paid any attention. They are both roughly 17 3/8" from nut to butt. The Duo is a wider nut and a smaller radius.

Porthehaus, thanks for sharing. Any special plans for the Douglas? A new thread would be cool for the project.

Bump to show what a Jagmaster conversion neck looks like on my SX. It was a perfect fit. Fits nice and tight in the pocket and I didn't even have to intonate, just adjust the saddle heights.

This was a major improvement to the original neck.

Lucamo · Post by **Lucamo** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:12 am

I really want one of these jazz clone thingys... Does the shortscale version come with jaguar bridge or no? So lost

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:38 pm

They have some interesting stuff, that is so cheap it's almost work trying, but I just keep holding back.

A few years back they had these lefty Les Pauls that had the coolest finish (to me) and it was like $129, and I didn't buy it then. Now I can't find them. I also kinda wish I had gotten some of their shorty lefty Strats, like this one, but I cannot stand maple fretboards. I'd so grab one of them if it wasn't for that.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:06 pm

Pens wrote:They have some interesting stuff, that is so cheap it's almost work trying, but I just keep holding back.

A few years back they had these lefty Les Pauls that had the coolest finish (to me) and it was like $129, and I didn't buy it then. Now I can't find them. I also kinda wish I had gotten some of their shorty lefty Strats, like this one, but I cannot stand maple fretboards. I'd so grab one of them if it wasn't for that.

My shorty p/j bass is amazing. One of the best guitar purchases I've made dollar for dollar I think.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:11 pm

endsjustifymeans wrote:
Pens wrote:They have some interesting stuff, that is so cheap it's almost work trying, but I just keep holding back.

A few years back they had these lefty Les Pauls that had the coolest finish (to me) and it was like $129, and I didn't buy it then. Now I can't find them. I also kinda wish I had gotten some of their shorty lefty Strats, like this one, but I cannot stand maple fretboards. I'd so grab one of them if it wasn't for that.
My shorty p/j bass is amazing. One of the best guitar purchases I've made dollar for dollar I think.

Again, I'd order a shorty strat right fucking NOW if they had one that had a rosewood fingerboard.

You have no idea how much I fucking hate the feel of maple.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:15 pm

I'm guessing at least as much as hotrod does. I used to be anti-maple until my `51. Now I'm pretty sold on it.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:21 pm

My first electric was a Peavey with a maple fretboard. It was fine, until I played a rosewood guitar and realized how superior rosewood was. Now all maple just feels cheap and plastic and shitty to me. I can't stand the gloss.

Similar to how I am getting where I hate glossy finished necks, like on the backside. My Jag has it, my Supersonic doesn't, and I am far more comfortable with the Supersonic, the Jag just feels weird and plastic to me now.

cur · Post by **cur** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:28 pm

Do they make lefty conversion necks? Anyway, for not too much you could do as I did. Get a lefty and hang a conversion neck on it Jimi style.

http://cgi.ebay.com/SX-SST-SE-3-4-Size- ... 5377wt_907