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This has made jamming in a 2 piece band much more enjoyable! your limited with what you can do but man it helps make the over all sound much fuller. Almost like you have a bass player standing right beside you.
I run the guitar side through my normal rig. And then the bass side through a octive pedal, a volume pedal (so I can turn it on/off) and into a bass rig. The idea sparked from the band Local H. I cant take the credit for coming up with it. but it really works.
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Here is a couple more pics I found of me playing it live. This was the first prototype. Since these pics I've cleaned it up replaced the squier neck and made a few tweeks.
Oh yeah good question.
Guitar side sounds fine. The bass side of course not as thumpy and deep as a bass would be. But with the octive pedal and adjusting with the bass eq it sounds better than just a guitar plugged into a bass cab. Definitly a good substitute to not having a bass player. It helps fill in that missing low end when playing as a two piece.
If anyone is truely interested I can try to make a video. But all my gear is at the rehersal space so it will have to wait until next practice.
As I'm in a twopiece myself. I'm interested on the benefits of this compared to just using the guitar itself through a octave pedal and bass rig + guitar rig.
Hurb wrote:As I'm in a twopiece myself. I'm interested on the benefits of this compared to just using the guitar itself through a octave pedal and bass rig + guitar rig.
I reckon unless you were gonna stick some fat bass strings on it then it's not gonna make any particular difference, you'd still have to use an octaver to drop the note using little strings.
This means that instead of the whole guitar being shifted down the octave and being muddy sounding (full chords thirds in lower registers) you can put just whatever note is being played on the bottom two strings down, which with a bit of planning means that you can have a proper bass part and then a guitar part above it.
BacchusPaul wrote:This means that instead of the whole guitar being shifted down the octave and being muddy sounding (full chords thirds in lower registers) you can put just whatever note is being played on the bottom two strings down, which with a bit of planning means that you can have a proper bass part and then a guitar part above it.
BacchusPaul wrote:This means that instead of the whole guitar being shifted down the octave and being muddy sounding (full chords thirds in lower registers) you can put just whatever note is being played on the bottom two strings down, which with a bit of planning means that you can have a proper bass part and then a guitar part above it.
Clever and very useful.
My oc-3 does all that for me though.
WHAT HOW I never thought octaves were that awesome.
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BacchusPaul wrote:This means that instead of the whole guitar being shifted down the octave and being muddy sounding (full chords with thirds in lower registers often aren't useful) you can put just whatever note is being played on the bottom two strings down, which with a bit of planning means that you can have a proper bass part and then a guitar part above it.
Clever and very useful.
My oc-3 does all that for me though.
It can differentiate between the notes it's receiving and then only put some of them down the octave? Is that what the Polyoctave mode is? That's also clever and very useful.
It still doesn't do it as well as this. Having the effect act on specific strings is a far better way of doing it than on certain notes. This way you could play the same note on two different strings and only have one of them shift down.
on the poly mode with the range knob further anti-clockwise the lower strings only sound and the more you turn it clockwise the more strings will sound.
I love Local H and totally dig this but a question arises...why even bother with a volume and tone pot for the bass pickup? I have my stratocopy apart right now to refinish it and get this going but I was going to omit the lower tone pot and put in a jack that would be wired straight to the pup.
EDIT: Just read Hurb's post about the benefits of this. I had the same question a while ago, and was thinking on just making a rig out of Behringer pedals where I would have a splitter split my guitar signal and then feed it to an octave, which would then be fed to a bass amp. But since I play on the bridge pickup most of the time, and there was a thread here a while back about octave pedals where people mentioned that no matter what you did it still just sounded like a guitar through an octave...it got me thinking that the reason was because it was probably the pickup's fault.
The way I see it, the middle and neck positions are a little bassier than the bridge and are less "plinky". So if you feed 2 signals from 2 pickups in different positions that you wouldnt get the same feeling of the bass just sounding like it was just a guitar through an octave. Dont get me wrong, it probably never sound like a real bass, and even when you listen to Local H it doesnt sound like a real bass, but atleast the signals are different enough to fool the ear.
It was definitly inspired by Local H. One of my favorite bands!
Obviously it doesn't sound as good as a real bass. But its definitely the next best thing. I find myself strumming a little different (more down strokes). That way the bottom strings going through the bass don't ring out like a strummed guitar and the bottom line sounds more like a bass riff. As well as using more power chords to really make sure I get the bass notes to sound.
Best part about is your making so much sound it makes you feel like a B.A. hahaha Feels like you're playing the fullest sounding rig you've ever played on.
I want to get a looping pedal of some kind so I can loop the bass and jam some leads over it. They are expensive but it would be sweet.
When our bass player moved away he left his rig and gave us permission to use it. He plans on moving back sometime next year so this is working out great in the mean time. Almost better than having a bass player. lol
I really want to do this. I was in a two piece band for a little while, but we decided we needed a bass player.
I think I can fit mustang bass pickups in between the Jaguar pickups on my Cyclone, I'm just cautious about where the input jack is going to go. My first thought was a strat jack on the back of the guitar, lined up where the control cavity is.
