Gonna Salvage A Bronco

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Gonna Salvage A Bronco

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Hey short scale lovers. I have a '75 Bronco someone messed up long ago and want to save it.

They refinished it, and did a half ass job of installing a humbucker. Didn't remove enough wood, and the pickup sits way too close to the strings.

So, I have a choice of shaving some more wood out of it to make room for a humbucker, or getting a new guard and putting a single coil back in it. Since the collector value is now gone, along with the knobs and original tuners, another option is to go ahead and mod the hell out of it. I was thinking of puting one of these in the neck spot, http://www.kleinpickups.com/p-226-firebird-pickup.aspx

..... and putting a decent humbucker in it. I think it would be fairly versatile if I did that. But I'm open to any suggestions.

The refinish is appropriate for the season I guess :roll:

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That refin is hideous! It should be a fun project though!
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Post by taylornutt »

Is that an original Bronco Tremolo bar? If so, consider yourself lucky. Looks like a great project. Welcome.
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the only thing i'd do is scrape some more wood out of that cavity and put a hum size p90 in it. somethin real mean like an overwound jazzmaster pickupz
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Hahaha I kind of like the finish, it's so overboard that it comes across as naturally ironic.

If that were mine I would just slap a Phat Cat in there put it back together and rock out with it. If you want to take on a pretty big project, there's been equally ambitious Bronco restos on these boards that have come out awesome....this one at least wasn't made into some sort of pointy or teardrop shaped monstrosity.
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Looks like a tie
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Haha! That looks cinamonny-fresh!
+1 on leaving the finish alone.
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laterallateral wrote: +1 on leaving the finish alone.
Thats one of the best rubbish finishes ever, you have to keep it!!!

Just route the HB hole out bigger.
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^^^
I can't not see your avatar as Captain Kirk damning Khan on one of the bridge consoles.
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Billy3000 wrote:That refin is hideous! It should be a fun project though!
lol, the white stripes are some sort of reflective thing. Bright ligh makes it silver.
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Asher wrote:Looks like a tie
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perfect match actually 8)
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taylornutt wrote:Is that an original Bronco Tremolo bar? If so, consider yourself lucky. Looks like a great project. Welcome.
Thanks,
I'm sure it is the original bar. I haven't removed it, but I have a question about the bridge anyway, so I'll take it off and shoot a pic. I'm going to take the bridge apart and shoot pics to see if you guys can tell me if all the pieces are there. I think they are, but I can't find a pic of the parts anywhere. I'll get a pic up later today, but when I had it apart before, it was two bolts, the adjustment bolt w/a barrel-like piece that has notches to line up on the plate, , and two non-flat washers that sit between the plate and the recessed piece. I never took the recesseed piece off, but I assume everything is under it that should be. Rocks up and down like it should. There may have been washers under the heads of the two bolts at one time. I'll take another look at the Bronco threads here and see.

Are the bars hard to find as a aftermarket replacement ? I found the pickguards, but no knobs.. The knobs are not a big priority though since it's clooector value is shot.
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Seems the nod goes to using the same guard and taking some more wood out. Probaly best, since a new guard will cost near half what a good pickup cost.

Nick, I checked out the Phat Cat. It sounds pretty nice going by the PC bridge demo on the SD site. Clean clip sounded like I can live with it. Dirty sounded nice as well. A local shop may have one in stock come to think of it.
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Oh, forgot to ask. If I do go with a P-90, specifically the Phat Cat, what tone cap value would you guys recommend ?

How about pots ? I have some new CTS audio taper 250K pots laying here. Got the jack covered, an old Switchcraft that was in it.
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Ok, I see SD reccomends 500k pots and .047 cap. Still open to any suggestions.

And how about this mod ? Anyone done it on a P-90 bridge pup ?
See last post on thread for diagram.

http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/show ... hp?t=79623
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Post by stewart »

bronco kobs aren't that hard to come by if you know where to look...
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Post by Bacchus »

That's amazing. I agree with everyone else that a humbucker sized P-90 would be awesome, also a clear pickguard, so as to let the the finish be seen.

I would rock that.

It's a Derry City guitar!

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Post by Grant »

Pleas keep that finish. Not nearly enough people keep janky finishes around here.
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Well, it sure it Christmassy. Sloppy stripes would have made it a deal breaker for me, but he got that part right. You might consider a lower profile humbucker.

I wouldn't want to remove the bridge unless I had to, but it's not that hard once you do it a few times. The bent plate pivots on the two big nuts. It would sag except that the strings and spring are driving the other end up. The spring is controlled by the single screw in the middle. The trem just hooks onto the plate with a kind of locknut system on either side of the plate. Historically, most people have managed to ditch and lose the trem bar, even though it's a nice little design.

There's some kind of trick to it but I can't remember. You have to follow a sequence or start over. And you have to line up the spring with the screw and quickly join them or you lose track of where the threads are. Something like that. Anyone?

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Post by Sano »

BacchusPaul wrote:That's amazing. I agree with everyone else that a humbucker sized P-90 would be awesome, also a clear pickguard, so as to let the the finish be seen.

I would rock that.

It's a Derry City guitar!

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Now I bet they would approve of it :lol: