Squier Jaguars and Jazzmasters?

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:05 am

SeismicProfile wrote:
benecol wrote:Also fine on mine (safari on a Mac, for what it's worth).
I am on a mac also... thats weird. It must be for chrome and internet explorer users only? Oh well back to the guitars

i'm using safari on windows. never seen that happen before. how odd.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:39 am

Srsly, what do people think about those bridges? I know they look like Duo-sonic/Toronado bridges, but to me they look an awful lot like Dano bridges, the way they seem to be raised right off the front of the guitar. If that's true then replacing them with a proper tun-o-matic will be stupidly easy.

Also, the placement of the knobs is exactly the same as the placement of the jack input hole and the tone knob on a proper Jazzy. That makes these things easily moddable. All you do is drill a new hole for the volume, move the tone knob, move the jack input onto the pickguard, fill the hole in for the strat jack input, refinish the guitar, drill out the holes and routing for a proper Jazzmaster bridge and trem and it will still be cheaper than a real Jazzmaster by a fairly long way. I'm in for this. Totally. This is my next guitar. Just you see.

SeismicProfile · Post by **SeismicProfile** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:04 am

ekwatts wrote:Srsly, what do people think about those bridges? I know they look like Duo-sonic/Toronado bridges, but to me they look an awful lot like Dano bridges, the way they seem to be raised right off the front of the guitar. If that's true then replacing them with a proper tun-o-matic will be stupidly easy.

Also, the placement of the knobs is exactly the same as the placement of the jack input hole and the tone knob on a proper Jazzy. That makes these things easily moddable. All you do is drill a new hole for the volume, move the tone knob, move the jack input onto the pickguard, fill the hole in for the strat jack input, refinish the guitar, drill out the holes and routing for a proper Jazzmaster bridge and trem and it will still be cheaper than a real Jazzmaster by a fairly long way. I'm in for this. Totally. This is my next guitar. Just you see.

Thats true and then if you strip the paint to a natural finish and put some white pickup covers on there with tort then it would be really nice. Maybe a Sonic blue refin.... damn I'm actually beginning to like these guitars

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:31 am

ekwatts wrote:Also, the placement of the knobs is exactly the same as the placement of the jack input hole and the tone knob on a proper Jazzy. That makes these things easily moddable. All you do is drill a new hole for the volume, move the tone knob, move the jack input onto the pickguard

i thought about this as well, but it's assuming that they're routed high enough to accommodate moving the vol pot further up, in which case you'd need to route it more.

my suspicion is derived from lack of necessity for the larger area on the lower wing, due to the relocated 3 way switch.

i bet they are routed more similar to a tele deluxe.

and someone refresh my memory; i'm thinking i've seen those bridges on something else before. i believe that it was from some other company doing knock off offsets, and one of them was a dual humbuckered atrocity with like a zig-zag shaped pickguard (blue/green/red guitars with black guards, like). maybe i'm imagining things, but... someone help me out.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:32 am

These are sort of what the Blacktop guitars were supposed to be as far as I'm concerned.* They're going to be even cheaper than that, even more basic and stripped down and prime modding guitars. Well, the Jazzmaster at least.

*Apart from that fucking strat socket. WHY. It keeps making me really angry when I think about it. Why did they do that? It doesn't make sense. It's such a stupid, senseless thing to do. It just ruins the whole fucking thing. It's very, very, very nearly completely offputting. It's just so stupid, random and pointless. Why do it? Surely that adds a few dollars to the production cost? Wouldn't it have been cheaper to just mount it on the pickguard instead of taking the existing JM guard, leaving out one of the hole and installing the tone control where the jack would normally be, and then wiring it all up and simply screwing it on? Do they just like to give the little kids working in the Indonesian factories something extra to do? What the fuck. Fucking idiots.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:34 am

hotrodperlmutter wrote:
ekwatts wrote:Also, the placement of the knobs is exactly the same as the placement of the jack input hole and the tone knob on a proper Jazzy. That makes these things easily moddable. All you do is drill a new hole for the volume, move the tone knob, move the jack input onto the pickguard
i thought about this as well, but it's assuming that they're routed high enough to accommodate moving the vol pot further up, in which case you'd need to route it more.

my suspicion is derived from lack of necessity for the larger area on the lower wing, due to the relocated 3 way switch.

Good point, actually. I can't wait for more info on these now, along with prices and the inevitable tear-down thread once somebody bags one.

Blue Cool · Post by **Blue Cool** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:58 am

I think I want one.

othomas2 · Post by **othomas2** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:28 am

Do you think they may have tried to have a stab at the jazzmaster prototype regarding the strat jack socket ?

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:33 am

and mapelz

SKC Willie · Post by **SKC Willie** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:54 am

I still think those pictures make it look like they have stacked volume/tone knobs . . . not push/pull.

Like a '62 Jazz bass.

Blue Cool · Post by **Blue Cool** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:58 am

So what exactly does a stacked pot do? Would it control the volume and tone for each pickup?

SKC Willie · Post by **SKC Willie** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:01 am

that's the idea.

they're used in a lot of pups with active circuitry as treble/bass boosters and such but since Fender has done it before with vol/tone vol/tone combos, it wouldn't surprise me if they did on the "vintage modified" guitars.

James · Post by **James** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:10 am

ekwatts wrote:Looking reeeeeaaaaally closely at the Jag, they begin to look like stacked knobs. Which tells me that I'm looking far too closely at a computer picture, and that they therefore probably aren't.

They are. The Squier Jaguar Bass has them, too.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:12 am

Well, I'll be damned. That was unexpected. At least it helps distinguish it a little bit more from the Jagmaster.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:15 am

well i'll be damned. that's why they have butt ugly knobs. now if we can only figure out the reasons for the menagerie of other aesthetic blunders!

Blue Cool · Post by **Blue Cool** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:23 am

They're growing on me for sure. I'm still hoping the do a Classic Vibe version of the two though, as well as a Mustang, but I'll keep dreaming about that one.

Billy3000 · Post by **Billy3000** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:15 am

hotrodperlmutter wrote:what's this? mr blink 182 says no to humbucker in bridge?

haha touche! But I don't want a humbucker in a jazzmaster. I have more than enough humbucker'd guitars, if I'm getting a jazzmaster I want a legit jazzmaster. And this is the closest so far at an affordable price.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:15 am

ekwatts wrote:...to me they look an awful lot like Dano bridges, the way they seem to be raised right off the front of the guitar. If that's true then replacing them with a proper tun-o-matic will be stupidly easy.

Watts has said what I was thinking - seem to be identical bridges to the Dano reissues; that said, I'd disagree with the bit about the tune-a-matic - they sit far higher, and anyhow - why bother?

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:14 pm

Erics up for fitting tune-o-matics on everything now.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:54 pm

you guys are making a huge deal out of nothing about the jack.

just fucking take out one of the useless knobs, and put the jack there, then take the strat jack off and put a fucking sticker over the hole.

problem solved.