Epic "wtf is wrong with my Jag" thread.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:58 pm

Got the pickups wired back in and everything soldered up, with the pickup claws removed, and.. it still feeds back. Won't be able to tell if it's as bad as it was until I can get it plugged into a decent loud amp, but that's a bit of a bummer. Just need the pickguard (and to drill the bridge holes on that out as well) and then it's all done and dusted. I've left the pickup covers off for now, but I was considering getting some black strat covers. They'll fit, won't they?

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:03 pm

i don't think they'll fit.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:16 pm

Actually no, looking at the Duncan I doubt it. I'm not bothered either way, really. They'll probably look nice with the black guard without the covers.

I'm still getting the odd extraneous noise on the D and G strings. Might mess around with the action a bit to see if I can get rid of it. The neck is shimmed, too, so I might take that out to see if it helps. And fiddle with the truss rod as well.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:18 pm

ekwatts wrote:They'll probably look nice with the black guard without the covers.

you may be right on this. thinking about it, that may be the only configuration that would work without covers on a jag.

othomas2 · Post by **othomas2** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:51 am

ekwatts wrote:Got the pickups wired back in and everything soldered up, with the pickup claws removed, and.. it still feeds back.

I'm very surprised by this... it was like light & day with mine.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:11 am

othomas2 wrote:
ekwatts wrote:Got the pickups wired back in and everything soldered up, with the pickup claws removed, and.. it still feeds back.
I'm very surprised by this... it was like light & day with mine.

I did play it through a tiny shitty little amp turned fairly low, so it might have been regular single-coil noise, thinking about it. I need to plug it in and rock out a bit to really see if it's feeding back or I was just sitting too close to my monitor. That quarter pounder is a fucking nice pickup, though. Proper impressive stuff.

cobascis · Post by **cobascis** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:35 am

hotrodperlmutter wrote:i don't think they'll fit.

They fit fine, they just aren't as class as the Jag ones. Jaguar covers sort of 'fan out' at the bottom so there is no pickguard gap. with the strat covers ithey fit fine but its not as pretty.

hotrodperlmutter · Post by **hotrodperlmutter** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:19 am

i had to cram them onto mine, and they didn't allow the pickup to be secured to the wood. i could rock mine back and forth, and might as well have been taped in. plus, yeah, they looked like shit.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:03 pm

Welp, I ordered the black pickguard from Guitarpartsresource last night so that should be with me in two weeks or so, and I also got some black witchhat knobs on there and I'm also waiting on a black trem arm tip and some new string trees. See, I was wondering if the problems with the D and G strings would be fixed with a buzz stop so I was holding the string down behind the bridge and comparing the sound, and the ringiness went away when I did it. Then I realised the D and G strings didn't have a string tree on the headstock, so I tried it there and it seemed to work just as well. Soooo I hope the extra string tree fixes the issue. I don't really mind the idea of a buzz stop, to be honest, but I'd rather get around the issues without one. Am excite. It's nearly complete.

What pickup would be a good match for the quarter pounder then? I desperately want to get rid of the stock neck pickup and stick something interesting in there.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:38 pm

The ringing sound is part of the Jags character. Buzzstops work though if it bothers you that much.

How about a SJAG-2 for the neck? The marginal mis-match in output wont be noticed as the neck position is usually stronger anyway.

Pleased its all worked out and this thread is a nice surprise, i never thought i'd see you owning a Jag talking about Claw issues never mind drilling one out for a TOM.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:05 pm

Fran wrote:The ringing sound is part of the Jags character. Buzzstops work though if it bothers you that much.

How about a SJAG-2 for the neck? The marginal mis-match in output wont be noticed as the neck position is usually stronger anyway.

Pleased its all worked out and this thread is a nice surprise, i never thought i'd see you owning a Jag talking about Claw issues never mind drilling one out for a TOM.

I can't believe it didn't turn out to be a massive disaster, actually. All I really need to do now is try and find a 15mm drill with reduced shank so I can drill the bridge holes on the pickguard out wider, which seems to be quite hard.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:13 pm

You should be able to pick up a 15mm flat bit. If you secure the pickguard to a scrap piece of wood then drill it it should work out, as long as the point on the bit is in the centre of the existing hole.

Wickes stock 16mm which might work out better in case you go off centre a little.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:34 pm

It appears they want Â£5 for p&p, lal. Found one for Â£2 on eBay with free postage, so I bought that.

I'd just like to say that I love witchhat knobs.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:41 am

Catswhisker Pickups do a p90 voiced Jag pup for neck and bridge...8.5 and 8k. Hand made, good service, and very reasonably priced. Don't know what the QP bridge output is though to compare.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:34 pm

8.5k, the QP's are about 13k. I might just get the QP for the neck position, too, when I can afford it. I imagine it would sound pretty fat with the two of them on at full blast.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:19 pm

YESSSS, got the drill bit AND the new pg this morning, so I drilled out the holes and slapped it on. Some of the holes didn't fully align, so I might try filling them with a cocktail stick and straightening it all out.

Things left to do: Stick black trem tip on, install second string tree. And add black felt washers to the strap buttons. Supercustom Jaguar power.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:27 am

ekwatts wrote:the problems with the D and G strings would be fixed with a buzz stop so I was holding the string down behind the bridge and comparing the sound, and the ringiness went away when I did it. Then I realised the D and G strings didn't have a string tree on the headstock, so I tried it there and it seemed to work just as well. Soooo I hope the extra string tree fixes the issue.

Not sure if I'm interpreting this right but if you're talking about the chimey ringiness on some strings I assume this is the sympathetic resonation of the strings behind the bridge when strings are plucked - this sound is something known with the trem type - so putting your fingers on them there will stop the chime.

Pushing down on the strings behind the nut will make the strings along the neck and behind the bridge tighter and higher in resonant pitch. This will change the resonant frequency behind the bridge and the tightness there may lessen the volume of the resonance or mean that the resonance is no longer sympathetic with plucked open strings. This may mean that even with the string tree it will still produce the chime once back to normal pitch. Maybe.

Might be totally wrong if you mean a different chimey thingy though of course!

George · Post by **George** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:31 am

If it's what Dave's describing, the ring behind the bridge can be stopped with a buzz stop.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:42 am

GeorgeF wrote:If it's what Dave's describing, the ring behind the bridge can be stopped with a buzz stop.

Or wrap a colourful Gypsy bandana around them and buy a beaded strap with tassles.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:15 pm

Yeah, I figured the buzz stop might be the answer, so one's on the way.

I only paid Â£250 for this originally but I think it's ended up costing my an extra Â£200 in upgrades. I think there's a wiring issue to sort out still, but I'm gonna wait until the buzz stop and some new strings get here.